Bad experience with clay

Really? Holy canoli...Oh well...it's gone now...I have more (Another brand) on the way.





Accumulator said:
Heh heh, it dies even *faster* with some QDs and shampoo :eek: And if you somehow let it come in contact with solvents/tar removers it *really* turns into a soupy mess!
 
I've always been confused regarding how much pressure to apply while claying? Can someone tell me an easy way to check if the pressure is too much? too little?
 
Quant said:
I've always been confused regarding how much pressure to apply while claying? Can someone tell me an easy way to check if the pressure is too much? too little?



I'm seeing "onr" being mentioned all over Autopia, but am unable to figure out what it is? I assume it's a wash, but where can I get it? What brand is it? Thanks.

You don't need to apply much pressure. You can use soapy water as a lubricant if you don't have any ONR. Here is a little guide on how to clay your vehicle.
 
JonP said:
You don't need to apply much pressure. You can use soapy water as a lubricant if you don't have any ONR. Here is a little guide on how to clay your vehicle.





What kind of soap? Dish soap or car soap (megs gold class)?
 
Accumulator said:
I've heard that there are some paints that are simply so soft that *any* clay will mar them, but if you didn't have much marring before I doubt that is the case here.



You're right about this 100%. There's a handful of vehicles that I've witnessed marring from blue Clay Magic (black Bentleys and Porsche's). But, these cars also happen to get marred from anything touching them (MF and/or regular washing). Other than this, I feel certain clays are perfectly fine to be used on a regular basis (monthly) and don't cause any damage or LSP degredation. I also think it's key to clay with the recommended clay lube. I think it has a direct affect on marring and/or clay longevity.
 
JonP said:
... You don't need to apply much pressure. ...



Thanks for the article. I've also been reading many others on the web, as well as posts here, but my question remains "how much pressure"? Do press hard enough to make indent marks with my fingers into the clay, or do I let it just glide over the paint/lub with NO pressure? Or is it something in-between? Should it be enough pressure that can squish, for example, steamed rice grains?



How much is too much? Thanks for your help.
 
03F250 said:
What kind of soap? Dish soap or car soap (megs gold class)?



Note that some clays dissolve/lose their effectiveness if used with such stuff instead of the "proper" lube. Some combos work fine but others don't.

Quant said:
.. my question remains "how much pressure"? Do press hard enough to make indent marks with my fingers into the clay, or do I let it just glide over the paint/lub with NO pressure? Or is it something in-between? Should it be enough pressure that can squish, for example, steamed rice grains?



How much is too much?



Guess that depends on how well-cooked you like your rice :D But I think that's *way* too much pressure unless you're working on some really nasty contamination where marring the paint is the least of your worries.



Really, most claying can be done with virtually no pressure at all...the clay glides along on the lube until it runs into something sticking up from the paint, and then it shears that something off. You're not really rubbing the clay into the paint and the clay isn't really "grabbing/pulling" the stuff off. It's more like using a razor blade to scrape [stuff] off a piece of glass.
 
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