Back to Black

carnut00

carnut00

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Alright I just detailed my truck last week and was giving it its weekly wash and when I got done drying the back to black on the trim had gotten all over my paint and was streaked like hell. Is this a common problem does anybody know of a way to keep this from happening or of a different product that will work better? Thanks
 
I use the round closed cell foam applicators, and fold them in half.



It gives me a nice straight edge to apply with.



Make sure you buff with a clean dry towel afterwards to remove the excess product.
 
I agree with forrest. Apply it, let it dry, then buff off with a mf towel. This may not solve your problem completely but will definitely reduce it.
 
... does anybody know of a way to keep this from happening or of a different product that will work better?



If you don't get the results you are after with B2B, you might consider 303 Aerospace Protectant. You don't get as much "restore to original condition" effect on darker trim as you do with B2B, but it does seem to run less in the rain. Buffing is key with any vinyl/trim dressing, though.
 
blubird00, B2B is an amazing product, but only if used correctly.



I know all won't agree, but this is my approach which works well without fail.



hallo gallo touched on it in his reply. I don't use B2B as a final dressing (although some do, and the bottle suggests you can). I use it to clean and restore the rubber BACK TO BLACK. I believe there is no better rubber trim cleaner and restorer to its natural original state. Once its dry and I've buffed it, then I dress it with 303, following the instructions.



Best look, best finish, no streaking, long lasting. :D
 
I do not believe that 303 has cleaners in it...in fact it is a requirement of 303 that the substrate you are putting it on be completely free of wax or other coatings...that may be pretty tough to do give the tenacity of B2B......



If you should happen to get the dressing on the paint...which of course can be avoided with care and perhaps some proper tools...simply re-wax or polish the area. All trim dressings should be applied with care.
 
If you're doing vinyl trim Poorboy's Trim Restorer is much better than B2B.

The one bit of advice is to use very little and rub it in after it sets up. That way it will not bleed onto the paint surfaces. It seems to last better than most protectants.
 
Meguires Back to Black is one of the worse products I know of for doing this. Between that and the poor performance of the product, I don't use it. Switch to something good, like Black Again, and you won't have this problem.
 
Forrest and I were discussing this morning...naturally we are concerned when a couple of folks don’t like a particular product.



As you can well imagine, both of us have used this product extensively...and as long as we have followed the directions, we have not encountered any problems.



Forrest has noticed that if you should happen to accidentally get it on the paint...that it is easily removed with our ID.



We have also noticed that if you buff off the excess product as directed, there is no problem with product running. On the other side of the coin if you just slap it on and walk away...yes it will run. As the old adage goes..."When all else fails....read the directions".



Not everyone will like the product...but to this point...the vast majority of those who have tried it...like it. Thanks for the input...perhaps I can make the product even better...give me something to do in the winter.....
 
More anal suggestions:



As I said earlier, apply with a foam applicator folded in half - it makes running down a trim edge really easy. Let set for a few minutes, and apply a second application.



After 10-15 minutes, buff with a clean dry terry cloth towel to remove any excess.



If any product ended up on the paint, apply some QD to a clean dry towel or MF (my preference) and wipe the area. DON'T spray the QD next to the trim, because you'll end up contaminating both areas.



Hope this helps.
 
When I noted that Mothers made Black to Black I wasn't diving in to criticize the product. I have used it with success and haven't had any issues with it at all.

If there is a single procedural error that is made with all car care products it seems to be using too much. Irregardless as to whether it's a protectant, wax, sealant, qd or polish they all seem to work best if used sparingly. It may be that a second coat is required but usually you don't encounter problems.
 
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