Attempting to remove "haze"

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Da5Id

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All,

This is my third post on this topic, so sorry if it's becoming redundant, but I have a detailed (detailing) question this time.

As posted before, I have a small section of my brand new car (1 month old Ti Silver BMW) with a hazy look, which could be hologram or excessive AIO. I don't have enough experience to tell the difference. Car currently has a coat of AIO and a single coat of Klasse SG. I only notice the "haze" in good light. I didn't notice the "haze" prior to applying the AIO (when the car was 1 week old), but it may have been there and I just didn't see it.

I just bought a PC7424, so now I'm going to try and remove this "haze". First, considering it may be excessive AIO, my thought is to go over the section with the PC, a green Sonus pad and P21S Paintwork Cleanser. My thought is to get the AIO and SG completely off with this process. Then see if the "haze" is gone. If so, reapply AIO with the PC to the section and I'm done.

If after doing the above process (assuming it makes sense), and the "haze" is still there, I have 2 options. One is to take the car to the dealer (BMW) and ask them to fix it under warranty. The other is to use some sort of swirl remover with the PC and do it myself (which is probably what the dealer would do anyway).

Question is, does the process I described above for step one make sense (green pad and P21S), or is there a better method/product? Second, if I find the defect is a hologram, what do you suggest?

Thanks!
 
The haze is not a product on the surface. AIO goes on and off like butter. I've never read or heard of a single case of any product haze that won't go away. Without pictures I can't really say what it is. Sounds like something in the clear. Either holograms or buffer burn is probably the issue you are having. I would take the car to a professional and see what they can tell you. Any detail shop should be able to diagnose your problem. If its a paint defect that came from the factory then the hacks...er...I mean, Detailers at the dealership should be able to take care of it for you.
 
AIO is idiot proof to use so I highly doubt AIO is causing the hazing. SG is known to streak but I have never known it to leave a haze on the surface. Do you see streaking or just a dull haze?

It sounds like for whatever reason, the small area of your car had an abrasive polish/compound used with too aggressive of a pad. You can correct it yourself most likely with an orange pad and SSR2.5 and SSR1 (SSR1 with a green pad) or equivalent. A light polish like SSR1 may actually be the only step needed but it is hard to say without seeing the actual hazing.

Your idea with the P21S paint cleanser is fine.
 
Thanks much for the replies!

In answer to the question, to my eyes, the defect looks sort of like milky streaks. Haze may be a bad description. It's not particularly uniform. As I said in a previous post last week when describing the situation, it reminds me of Cirrus clouds on a blue sky (but on a silver sky in this situation!).
 
Sounds like the SG streaking. First step is to thoroughly wash the car to see if the streaking disappears. If so, you're done and you will have experienced one of the complaints about SG. If not, take a microfiber (or whatever you use) and wipe the panel...does the pattern change? If the streaking does not disappear with a wash and the pattern changes after wiping the panel, consider applying another extremely thin layer of SG. Often times reapplying the product fixes whatever issue(s) you are having.
 
See if the streaks go away with your finger nail. If you can feel them then you should be able to remove them. My guess is that you can't feel them at all. That means its in the paint. If it was on the surface then you would have already removed it all with the steps you have taken.
 
Unless I missed something, he has not done anything yet to try to remove the streaking/haze.
 
TW85 said:
Unless I missed something, he has not done anything yet to try to remove the streaking/haze.
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Correct, I haven't tried it yet. I'll do it tonight If I get home from work at a reasonable hour.
 
As an update. Yesterday I tried my new PC with a Sonus green pad and some P21S paintork cleanser in an attempt to remove the hazy/milky section from my car.

It didn't work. Looks like I need something more aggressive, or to take it to the dealer. I'm a little afraid of the dealer doing it since I don't know how good their body shop is. On the other hand it's under warranty.

I did do the entire car with with UPP and the PC, which worked out great. The surface is so slick.
 
I would take the car to a quality paint shop and the dealership. It is quite possible that the car's paint was touched up at the factory or dealership and what you are seeing is a blushing of the basecoat or clearcoat, causing the haze. Before trying too much correction and possibly voiding the warrantee, have it checked out by the professionals.
Just my opinion.
 
being that i work at a dealer, i have seen this before. when a vehicle is shipped from the factory, if any damage occurs before it lands at the dealer, the shipping company will have it repaired and the dealer never finds out about it. and there is no way to find out about. i am not saying this is what happened but it is a possibility. and Jngrbrdman please don't assume all detailers at dealers are hacks. some of us take alot of pride in our work and are very good at detailing. because we work at a dealer instead of a detail shop doesn't mean we are hacks.
 
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