At wits end!

03Black1.8t

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I got my 4" spot pads(yellow and white) and was tring to get some of the water spots/swirls out of my hood. I did notice that the hood was warm from where I had drove it down the road but decided to go ahead with it. I had a hard time removing the ssr2.5 once I worked it in. I used figure 8 pattern and side to side up and down. When I went to remove it, it would not come off. I misted some nxt QD on it and it came off? I figured it was from teh hot hood so I did it on my trunk lid that was cool and same results. I only did hald the hood to see if there was a improvent and there was but slightly. I dont know what to do now. I thought for sure stepping from a orange pad to a yellow would be abrasive enought. :nervous2: Do I have something in my arsonal thats better. I have some



DACP

s100 paint cleanser

VM

FP

IMP

NXT



Any suggestions?
 
I've never used any Poorboys products (but in reading here I understand it's one of the most "go to" polishes used.



I also think that PB's products are suppose to be "sun" friendly so heat shouldn't bother them that much.





What are you asking help on, the product being hard to remove or removing the water spots/swirls?
 
MorBid said:
I've never used any Poorboys products (but in reading here I understand it's one of the most "go to" polishes used.



I also think that PB's products are suppose to be "sun" friendly so heat shouldn't bother them that much.





What are you asking help on, the product being hard to remove or removing the water spots/swirls?





I am afraid I will not be able to remove the water spots. If I took a picture of them would it help? But the ssr2.5 didn;t even make a dent it them. Is ssr3 that much stronger? I dont want to have to buy a entire bottle because I will never use it all.
 
Did you try using some Vinegar to get them off? How long have they been on the panels?



If they have been on for awhile or are really stubborn you may not have any choice but to step up another level in polish to get some more cutting. That and or use a rotary.



PS



Pic's always help :)
 
MorBid said:
Did you try using some Vinegar to get them off? How long have they been on the panels?



If they have been on for awhile or are really stubborn you may not have any choice but to step up another level in polish to get some more cutting. That and or use a rotary.



PS



Pic's always help :)



I HAVE NOT TRIED VINEGAR, but if it works I will send you some cash. They are only on the hood top of the car and the trunk. Can the rotary do that much more than the pc? Would my LC pads work with it. They are 6".
 
My Merc has some water spots on the plastic bumper because it was not washed for about a month, with lots of rainstorms during that period. I used a 4" pad and Menzerna IP several times, and it did not do anything for the spots.



I concluded that the water spots had badly etched the surface, but I'm not positive. You may not be able to remove them if they have etched deep enough. I will probably also try the vinegar if there are still mineral deposits left.



- J
 
03Black1.8t said:
I HAVE NOT TRIED VINEGAR, but if it works I will send you some cash. They are only on the hood top of the car and the trunk. Can the rotary do that much more than the pc? Would my LC pads work with it. They are 6".



No need for the cash bro, it's all good :xyxthumbs , we're here to help each other out. Visit http://www.autopia-carcare.com/horeswmawasp.html for a how-to



Yes a rotary can use 6" LC pads and it'll do way more than a PC because of the high speed at which it can operate. But having said that "speed kills" so you need to keep your wits about you when using one.



As JustinTRW said, water spots are almost always caused by some type of mineral or acid deposits in the water.



If they're baked on pretty good you'll most likely need a heavy cut compound and a rotary with a wool pad to level the craters out.



Someone else may chime in with some results with a PC.
 
Depends on whether the spots are *on* or *in* the paint.



IF the spots are something (presumably mineral-based) that's *on* the surface of the paint, you could always try a decontamination system such as AutoInt's ABC or the one from FinishKare. I'd also clay while the acidic step is dwelling. Here you're cleaning contamination off the paint.



If the spots are etched *into* the paint, making "pits" or "depressions" in the surface of the paint, then the only solution is aggressive compounding with a rotary. Here you're taking off paint until it's all level with the bottom of the etching. Gotta be careful because some etching is deeper than you want to go when taking off paint. Better to have some "spots" than to have massive clearcoat failure and have to repaint the panel.
 
can you tell of they are on the surface or into the paint? These are smooth to the touch and the car is only 2 years old. Its only on the 3 areas. I am sure if ssr 2.5 will not take them out then they are into the paint. Can they be taken out by a professional? is there any way to hide or make them look better?
 
try using 2500 to 6000grit wet sand paper. If you are novice..dont do it.

Yeah like about post said, u can use SSR3 then down to ssr2.5. If you have rotary, u can use Merzena Power Gloss(this is like brick :nervous2: ).
 
klnyc said:
try using 2500 to 6000grit wet sand paper. If you are novice..dont do it.

Yeah like about post said, u can use SSR3 then down to ssr2.5. If you have rotary, u can use Merzena Power Gloss(this is like brick :nervous2: ).





I have about 4 oz sample of the power gloss but no rotary. I would not dair try to wet sand out the spots. I would pay someone to remove the spots. Anyone in N.C. wanta pick up a dead president?
 
MorBid said:
did you try the vinegar trick first?





I will first thing in the morning. I know its not going to work. :nervous2:



Does it need to be distilled vinegar? Or will regular vinegar that looks like piss be ok? Can I spray some QD on it after or will it need a actual bubble bath?
 
don't know if regualr vinegar will work I've never had to try it, but what can a bottle of distilled vinegar cost at the supermarket a couple of bucks maybe. Use it for salad dressing afterwards.



I would do it the way that link I posted said (they've obviously tried it).



I look up something over at 3M http://www.3m.com/us/auto_marine_aero/aad/solutions/ent_waterspots.jhtml and according to them they're 3Mâ„¢ One Step Cleaner Wax - Light Oxidation Remover (liquid 39006 or paste 39519) / 3M Perfect-It Foam Polishing Pad Glaze Swirl Mark Remover (dark 39009 or light 39109 cars) should help you out (These can be used with a PC)



If you can't find these at a local retail store then look in the phone book for a "Auto Body/Paint supplier" these are stores that sell pads, paint, and other supplies to Body Shops (Private and Dealerships)



Tell them your probelm and ask what they have you can use either by hand or with a PC.



Lastly relax, my dad used to say "nothing that's happened to you hasn't happened to someone else before" therefore there is a fix. :)
 
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