are these holograms or swirls?

jedovaty

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Hello,



Other two attempts at posting this got quashed because I included a picture. I am not sure how useful this will be without a photo, but I'll try anyway, since it's bugging me to all extents!



Spent last couple days reading, searching, lurking the wealth of info here. In short, car was detailed by a "pro", I hand washed/dried it very carefully and gently with microfibers up the wazoo two weeks later, and this strange sheen pattern showed up on the curvy hood, but only during high noon. The rest of the time (morning, late afternoon, evening) the black paint looks very nice, consistent sheen, and "wet".



Picture here:

jano.smugmug.com slash photos slash 173309316-L.jpg



If that works, just combine the thing in your browser... hehehe. Please note I "enhanced" the image to better show the effect, the paint is actually much nicer looking than the photo. I would greatly appreciate opinions of what it is at this point only, solutions to fix this may be over my head while I continue to do research here. My background with detailing had been hand wash/dry and cleaner wax on my 25 year old POS with over 400k miles, heheh.



Long story:

Purchased used car in March, the front bumper, fenders, hood, and doors were ridden with scratches, chips, and dents. Spent a small fortune restoring that, took three weeks at a local, esteemed, and highly recommended body shop in Costa Mesa. I gently hand washed the car three weeks later, and left it with the car dealership for another month (don't ask...), where they promised to keep it covered (I have my doubts). Anyway, picked up the car from them, then took it immediately to a pro detailer recommended by the body shop and several other friends. Picked up the car the next day, and the black paint truly looked awesome. Washed it hesitantly and very, very gently two weeks later, and immediately the next day noticed this odd sheen on the car, only at high noon. Was too busy to make much adoo, and then washed it again last friday (three weeks after previous wash) and the effect is now fairly obvious when the sun is out and high.



Car still looks great in the morning and evenings, wet, clean sheen.



What does it look like to you?



Thanks,

Jed
 
Horrible holograms...that detailer is a hack. It will take some machine polishing to get rid of all of those holograms.
 
Yea looks like he comounded the paint and then simply covered it up with a conceler wax. Horrible job. Take it back show him the follies of his ways. If you trust him enough give him 1 shot to fix it but make it clear if he can't fix it you'll be forced to take it to another detailer that can get that out and he will foot the bill.
 
Could of sworn I tried that. But yeah, those look like some pretty serious holograms.



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EDIT -- where are my manners, thank you all for the input!





I'm *not* going back to the detailer again, that's for sure. A lot of money went into fixing the front of the car.. also, I noticed just this afternoon the trunk cover suffers from the same thing, and the trunk cover was not painted.



In researching, it appears the best way to fix this up would involve using power tools, and I'm simply not comfortable doing that -- I will be happy to clay and wax, but not ready for anything beyond that. I've watched some of the detailers in the area here work, the impression so far has been that they are just trying to get the work done, and seem to neither enjoy it nor take pride in their work.. which worries me. I work near newport beach, California.



So how would one find a detailer that enjoys the work and takes pride in their results? Once they clean up that mess, I'm excited on doing the other stuff on my own (everything sans machine) :)



Thank you,

Jed
 
You might want to try checking the regional forums.



But you should try a machine. It's really not hard to use at all. If you get a random orbital, you'll take about a minute to get used to the random orbit movement of the machine but after that, it's cake. I just recently picked up a machine after a bit of trepidation but now I'm getting lazy and applying waxes with one hand with the machine near top speed. You probably don't want to do the one handed thing but I'm just saying, it's that easy to use.
 
Thank you, I will look into the regional forums later.



In theory, doing the whole thing myself sounds like a great idea, in practice, the joke around the house is that there's a 100 yard restraining order against me from power tools. Hehehe. I can work fine with non-electrically powered hand tools, but for some reason, things go very, very awry when I tap into the power of electricity. And that's not a good idea for a noob to take to his first expensive car purchase.



I'm also hesitant to use machines on the new paint so soon after the first time around...
 
oh my goodness I haven't cringed like that in while!

I hope you get that dealt with! Be sure to post pics of the finished PROPERLY results!



Good luck :D
 
I think you're pretty smart for not having them correct the holograms. With work that bad, I wouldn't want them "fixing it". If it was me, I'd go back and show them what a hack job they did. Heck, those aren't even uniform holograms! Looks like the guy had a 6 pack in 1 hand, buffer in the other... At least my holograms come out consistant & uniform :har:
 
I just installed those same holograms on my car with my PC. I got a little too aggressive. 3M Perfect-It 3000 Rubbing Compound with LC orange, followed by Meguiars Swirl remover... mistake here... on an orange pad. I need to follow up with swirl remover on a white pad. Judging by the swirls, I might have to go at it twice, maybe even rubbing compund on white followed by swirl remover on white.
 
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