Applying Wax

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01TrublUGT

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Just a quick question.



Do most of you guys apply and buff out your final coats of wax by hand or with a machine?





It seems to me that applying the wax by hand would go just as quick as by machine, and most waxes like light coats that you would be able to do that easier by hand as well.



Buffing it off is where I am lost. Seems like it might be easier to slap a microfiber bonnet over a pad on the PC to buff it out, then just catch the hard to reach areas by hand??
 
Applying a thin coat of wax via machine can actually be done very quickly. It usually takes me just as long to pull out the PC, extension cord, roll around caddy, and towels as it does to apply just a coat of wax. (And if I am applying Collinite 845, it takes longer to shake the bottle to be sure it's ready to go :D )



Although I think opposite of you as I'd rather remove it by hand and not have to worry about changing bonnets on the pads. I find it easier to just flip the towel over and keep moving.
 
01TrublUGT said:
Thanks twitch, so your way is to put it on with the machine and take it off by hand.
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Usually I apply waxes and glazes by hand. It really depends on how I'm feeling at the time and if I am trying to do it quickly. Which doesn't happen often as most of the time I am enjoying it and taking my time.



This weekend though I was pressed for time as my fiance and I had dinner plans. I used the PC to apply Collinite 845 to her Scion tC. I thought to myself WOW this is really easy and quick too :) And I didn't have to do much work at all as she removed the wax by hand :D



There is really no wrong or right way to do it. Whatever you feel is comfortable works and depending on how you're feeling at the time the methods of application may vary. In the end though I feel the outcome is the same when applying an LSP.
 
twitch said:
In the end though I feel the outcome is the same when applying an LSP.
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Hate to sound ignorant but what is an LSP??



Also I have some light swirls on my car I am planning on using SSR 1 on either a white or orange pad to get them out over the weekend.



After that I figured I would use Z2, then Z5 x's 2.



I hkeep hearing polish, sealants, glazes, waxes, ect. its all rather confusing.
 
01TrublUGT said:
Hate to sound ignorant but what is an LSP??



Also I have some light swirls on my car I am planning on using SSR 1 on either a white or orange pad to get them out over the weekend.



After that I figured I would use Z2, then Z5 x's 2.



I hkeep hearing polish, sealants, glazes, waxes, ect. its all rather confusing.
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LSP= Last Step Product, i.e., wax or sealant.



The other terms get used in various ways, but here are my versions:



Sealant = synthetic wax substituted.



Polish= abrasive product used to remove marring, improve gloss, etc.



Glaze= "makeup for cars", appearance enhancing product that provides little long-term protection. Often applied prior to LSP (the LSP seals the glaze in so it lasts longer).



I've never used the SSR series, but I wouldn't be surprised if SSR1 is a little mild to be used with an orange pad :think: Might also be too mild to correct the swirls, dunno for sure...
 
Accumulator said:
LSP= Last Step Product, i.e., wax or sealant.



The other terms get used in various ways, but here are my versions:



Sealant = synthetic wax substituted.



Polish= abrasive product used to remove marring, improve gloss, etc.



Glaze= "makeup for cars", appearance enhancing product that provides little long-term protection. Often applied prior to LSP (the LSP seals the glaze in so it lasts longer).



I've never used the SSR series, but I wouldn't be surprised if SSR1 is a little mild to be used with an orange pad :think: Might also be too mild to correct the swirls, dunno for sure...
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Got ya. So for polishing I have SSR2.5 and SSR1 between the two I should be able to take care of the swirls. They aren't that bad and unless the sun is beaming on one spot you can't even see them really.



So to you a sealant is any type of synthetic, meaning non carnuba, wax.



Glaze is the products that say they can hide swirl marks and usually goes on right before the LSP.



What are some of the better glazes out there for lighter colored cars?
 
01TrublUGT said:
What are some of the better glazes out there for lighter colored cars?
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I'm the wrong guy to ask as I really only use glazes on fresh repaints while the paint is curing :nixweiss
 
+1 to twitchs' first post





i think if using a liquid wax where it has to haze before removal, you maybe can break out the PC while it's hazing then remove with a bonnet



but for paste waxes i always remove by hand



the other day i bought my first MF bonnet for the PC (instead of just pads) and i put like 15 or so coats of wax on my spoiler, just practicing removal with the bonnet..:buffing:
 
01TrublUGT said:
Got ya. So for polishing I have SSR2.5 and SSR1 between the two I should be able to take care of the swirls. They aren't that bad and unless the sun is beaming on one spot you can't even see them really.
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My guess is if you use SSR2.5 on an orange pad, that should remove the swirls unless you paint is rock hard like mine (2000 White Mitsubishi Eclipse). After using the SSR2.5 you probably will have a little hazing so you will want to use the SSR1 with the white pad to clean that up.



01TrublUGT said:
So to you a sealant is any type of synthetic, meaning non carnuba, wax.
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Technically a sealant is not a wax but it works very well as a substitute for wax.



01TrublUGT said:
Glaze is the products that say they can hide swirl marks and usually goes on right before the LSP.
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Some glazes are made with fillers in them to fill swirl marks. The problem is, after a wash or two, the fillers are gone and the swirls reappear. That is why most on here want to remove the swirls with a compound or polish.



Other glazes are made with out fillers and their sole purpose is to leave the car's finish wtih a nice glossy look.



01TrublUGT said:
What are some of the better glazes out there for lighter colored cars?
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Danase Wet Glaze (www.danase.com) should work. I don't believe it has any fillers in it if you are looking to hide swirls. However, your SSR2.5 and an orange pad should eliminate them.
 
That helps, I figured I would get some hazing with the orange/SSR2.5 which is why I also have SSR 1 and a white pad on hand to clean it up. For my car the SSR1 and white pad will probably bring the paint back to perfect as the swirls are so minute you need direct sun and your face about 3" away to see them. My Explorer is a different animal. I am hoping the SSR 2.5 & 1 will clean it up. I was more or less wondering about the glaze just in case I can't get the Explorer completely cured I could get it as good as I can and then hide the rest with the glaze.



This is what I am working with on the explorer:

The hood by far the worst

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Door, this is pretty much typical of the rest of the truck:

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