Anyone know anything about Zaino Z-2 PRO?

Scottwax said:
Poorboy's Natty's Paste on lighter colors and metallics for a super wet look, Pinnacle Souveran on darker colors for a deep liquid look and #16 for a durable topper.
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I'd throw S100 somewhere in there as well.
 
:bounce :bounce I did a quick layer of Z2 today to check if indeed Zaino was sending out the new formulation without the label change.... It was under 50 F today and the curing time was fast with absolutely no removal problems ! Seems that it is true ! This stuff was fast in curing! Also the reflectivity and depth was increased. In under 20 minutes without ZFX, I had a good looking layer added !
 
ZFX or Z1 is still needed for proper bonding and for multiple coats in one sitting.



Z2 or Z5 will work without the use of ZFX or Z1, but it may cause varying results and lesser performance.
 
Would it be safe to say that Z1 is back in favor, given that Z2P now has such a quick setup time? I suppose there's still the chance that bonding is not complete, so adding multiple layers in a short duration might still be best left to ZFX, but for those of us that only apply one coat at a time it appears, to me at least ,that Z1 now offers most of the benefits, including a reasonably short setup.



I've always hated using ZFX because I'm too lazy to sort out how much ZFX to use with the amount of Z2 I need for one layer, so I end up mixing one ounce and five drops and Zainoing everything in sight. My car easily gets three coats, both bicycles get some, anything in the garage with paint gets a bit, it's really overkill and I'd love to go back to Z1 for those initial applications, I just feel obligated to use up my ZFX first.



Thoughts?



Ben
 
ZaneO said:
ZFX or Z1 is still needed for proper bonding and for multiple coats in one sitting.......
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OK this Z2P sounds interesting but let me see if I've got this ZFX stuff figured out:



You need ZFX for the first coat of Z2P right? Then if you add additional coats, lets say 24 hours apart, you don't need ZFX on the additional applications?



What if you went back two months later to add one coat, would you need to add ZFX?



And if you use ZFX with Z2P you can do like three layers in one day?



Thanks, and please excuse my lack of knowledge on the Z line.
 
You need ZFX for the first coat of Z2P right? - Yes



Then if you add additional coats, lets say 24 hours apart, you don't need ZFX on the additional applications? - Correct



What if you went back two months later to add one coat, would you need to add ZFX? - No



And if you use ZFX with Z2P you can do like three layers in one day? - Yes
 
ZFX or Z1 for the first coat. This will ensure proper bonding to the surface.



If you are gonna add additional coats of of Z2P 24 hours apart then you will not need additional ZFX in those additional coats.



I believe *IMO* that 2 months the prior coat will still be there so adding just Z2 w/o ZFX is a possibility.



ZFX will allow you to add 3 back to back coats in a single day.



ZFX from what I understand and have read is to speed up the curing and bonding process. I believe on the Z website, it also says that ZFX will increase "bonding action" making it bond a little stronger than without ZFX added to Z2.



Hope I helped a little Elliot Ness
 
Thanks for the info ZaneO and 01bluecls :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs



That clears up all of my questions (at least at this point).



Iâ€â„¢m actually somewhat fascinated by this mixing process of ZFX, I guess the idea of adding 5 drops into a little container brings out the mad scientist in me :D.
 
Eliot Ness said:
Thanks for the info ZaneO and 01bluecls :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs



That clears up all of my questions (at least at this point).



Iâ€â„¢m actually somewhat fascinated by this mixing process of ZFX, I guess the idea of adding 5 drops into a little container brings out the mad scientist in me :D.
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LOL, when I was mixing my bottles of ZFX and Z2, My mom was asking what i was doing, and I simply responded "Working on a chemistry experiment for class!"
 
Eliot Ness said:
Iâ€â„¢m actually somewhat fascinated by this mixing process of ZFX, I guess the idea of adding 5 drops into a little container brings out the mad scientist in me :D.
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For me it's being able to apply three layers in a single day. If I were using Klasse SG three layers would require a least three days. This ZFX is an interesting product.
 
ZFX is strange and great at the same time. Always use it for first or multiple coats. I have been guilty of not using it from time to time for a quick extra layer once in a while.



A good way to use ZFX is to mark a bottle with lines denoting how much Z2P/Z5 it takes you to do 1 coat, 2 coats, etc... then write how many drops of ZFX you need per measure of polish. It helped for the first few coats.



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As for "products I've never tried", now you're the one making generalizations. I've used dozens of products on my truck and customers cars before finally switching. Pretty much everything you can buy in stores, I've tried. It's the majority of these internet-based brands that I haven't had the chance to try. So I don't downplay products because I haven't used them, a lot of the ones I had used, I had unfavorable results from. Sounds fair to me.



/end public argument, pm me if you still want to complain
 
John,

On your question about using ZFX enhanced Z polishes after a 2 month hiatus between coats.

Yes, I would use ZFX at this point. Why? because after 2 months (daily driver) I am sure you would be doing some sort of surface refreshing (cleansing, polishing and maybe even claying). of course this is not the question scenerio you posed but more realistic to us Autopians.

Theorically one could just add up to about 8 coats after initial ZFX or Z1 initial layer as long as there appears to be some protection still present. But to be on the safe side after 2 months, even without a refreshing prep, "I" would recommend using ZFX or better yet at least a Z1(has mild cleansing ability)pre- layer if you have some laying around. :xyxthumbs
 
Opinions on whether Z2 Pro makes Z5 obsolete for medium colored cars?



Wondering if Z5 is a worthwhile step on a titanium silver (darker silver) colored car, given the new improvements in the new Z2 Pro.



Advice greatly appreciated!
 
I'm interested in the beading of Z-2 pro. Z-2's beading is almost annoying I think, because some of the beads it makes on flat surfaces of the car are at least a quarter in size. Basically if it rains and you don't dry or drive the car soon after, it's going to look pretty spotty once the water dries. Is Z-2 pro any better?
 
Have yet to wash the car again, but apparently it beads much tigher because the structure is more dense. So you will get more water spots, but smaller ones. :)
 
Sad said:
I'm interested in the beading of Z-2 pro. Z-2's beading is almost annoying I think, because some of the beads it makes on flat surfaces of the car are at least a quarter in size. Basically if it rains and you don't dry or drive the car soon after, it's going to look pretty spotty once the water dries. Is Z-2 pro any better?
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Bead spotting (vehicle sits after a rain) is a problem for all products the create beading. Z2-Pro is no different. This spotting can be a visual problem but not a structural problem (paint damaging) for dark colored vehicles. Fortunately, this spotting is quickly rectified by rinse (remove mineral deposits and neutralize any acid/base situations) and QD session ASAP.

The only other solution I know of is to use a water-sheeting producing protectant or a mobile garage.
 
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