Anyone here low carb?

jrock645

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For a lot of people, it's the time of year to get that number on the scale back under control. I've picked up 7 or 8lbs I need to drop, but thats not quite why I'm going the low carb route, or here to discuss low carb.

I actually adopted low carb as my lifestyle right after last year's Super Bowl. On Super Bowl sunday, I got on the scale knowing I wasn't going to like the number, but was not prepared for the number I was going to see. I weighed in at the heaviest I'd ever been in my life by a good margin- 227lbs. For reference, I graduated high school at 160lbs @ 6'2"- that's obviously very thin(I was a distance runner) and have no designs of ever approaching that weight again. The next day, I went cold turkey with the low carb thing, a bit daunted since I'd never done so well with it before.

Low carb dieting is a bit controversial, since our food pyramid in the US insists I need to stuff 6-11 pieces of bread in my mouth each day to be healthy, and FAT is such a bad word. For anyone with these pre conceived notions(basically any American), I would highly recommend reading Fitness Confidential by Vinnie Tortorich. The guy is no nonsense, hits you with it straight without technical mumbo jumbo, is very entertaining to read, and his story of conquering cancer and then training for a 508 mile bike race through the deserts of southern California will inspire something inside of you. Key quote from the book, "It's not about how fast you can go long but how long you can go fast." Anyway, the guy has a website where he promotes a no sugar, no grains lifestyle, or NSNG. So I read this book as I started skipping the carbs, which got me going.

I also read the Dash Diet, which for all intents and purposes is sort of a watered down Atkins. My mom has been on and off Atkins for years and always wonders why she gets away from it in the first place- besides dropping weight, she always feels a lot better. More energy, reduced joint soreness and such, better sleep pattern, etc. Atkins has been extremely controversial over the years but science has repeatedly backed up what he advocated. That said, the Atkins approach isn't a one size fits all approach to low carb dieting if you're just trying to lose weight. You have to keep in mind, he developed this diet for people with severe heart issues, and besides needing to drop their weight he also needed to get their inflammation levels under control, thus being choosy about exactly what kind of nuts to eat, etc. to avoid omega 6's.

Alright, I'll stop there with that stuff as it's not my intent to lecture- though I do strongly recommend educating yourself on the subject if you have any health or weight loss motivations. The Art and Science of Low Carb Dieting is an excellent science and history based study and discussion of a properly formulated low carb diet.

All that said, I went through the process, toughed out the first week and a half and began dropping weight. I'm no stranger to health and fitness and I'd lost 30lbs at another point in my life, but the first 10lbs this time went easier than I'd ever experience. Water weight and glycogen mostly, yes, but it's still major progress on the scale. By about the 6 week mark, I'd lost 23lbs and not a moment too soon- which I'll get to in a minute. The big question is what did I eat. Well, I had eggs with bacon or sausage for breakfast every morning. I poured heavy cream in my coffee with reckless abandon. I ate all the burger patties and steak I could stand. Lots of nuts, lots of cheese, liberal with the salad dressing on salads. Some mornings if I was in too much of a hurry to make breakfast, I simply shot down a spoon full of coconut oil. I also made a lot of stir fries, which got to be a very quick, convenient meal that incorporated meat, veggies, nuts and then sesame oil for additional fat. For successful low carbing, base all meals around fat!

About a month into the diet change, a switch inside my body flipped and I went into launch mode. I felt like my body was running on a fusion reactor! I was riding a stationary bike regularly, trying to do an hour a day but i would sometimes do more. Then I started doing the p90x videos and started walking some trails near my apartment on days off. One such day off, I hiked 7.5 miles of trails, did 2(!) p90x workouts, and rode the bike for an hour. Really! I can't stress enough that I was far from being in great shape, I simply had the unbridled energy of a 12 year old. When your body is burning fat for fuel- like it wants to- there is nearly unlimited energy.

Anyway, back to this dropping weight just in time. I ended up losing 40lbs total, but the first 23 proved critical. I ended up having a major episode with my back, diagnosed with 2 herniated discs and a grade 1 spondy(slipped vertebrae). Obviously, losing the weight doesn't reverse the damage but I've recently considered what a nightmare this ordeal could have been this past year if I'd been dealing with these back issues carrying around those 40 extra pounds the entire time.

Goal #1 this year is to rehab my back and get my body put back together and feeling like a 30 year old in good health should. That starts with treatments from the chiro and such, but I'm a believer in putting it all together. So, I need to get back to where I was on the scale- which won't take long- and get my nutrition dialed back in, and get back to some form of exercise. I let the diet loosen up through December with the holidays and football, but that's that.

Oh, another stat for you... A couple months before I made the dietary change, my cholesterol checked in at 255 and my triglycerides at 275. Pretty nasty. At my July physical, cholesterol came in at 200 with very high HDL, and the triglycerides at an astounding 35... a 220 point drop! Pretty impressive considering how bad bacon, eggs, cheese, salad dressing and spoonfuls of oil are supposed to be for me!

Oops... Never meant for this to be such a long post! With all that said and my story shared, let's get back to my original question. Anyone else here low carb and have a story to share?
 
I generally follow Tony Horton and his eating philosophy. Take a look into his stuff. He was the creator of P90X
 
That's a really interesting read. There are a lot of foods I really enjoy that are carb heavy, but this is always something I've wanted to try because others have had such similar success.

I'm at like my heaviest I've ever been right now(215 @ 6'1'') and I'm not happy about it. Getting an office job was the worst thing ever for my posture and health honestly. It's always someone's birthday, or there's a party, or someone brings in some cookies/cake and I hate turning them down all the time and feeling like a scrooge.
 
It does indeed work. I just wish the Dr. Atkins foods/meals weren't so expensive. I know they are not required but they do help kick start things and taste good too.
 
It does indeed work. I just wish the Dr. Atkins foods/meals weren't so expensive. I know they are not required but they do help kick start things and taste good too.

I eat very simply when im in my mode. Hard boiled eggs, deli meat, raw spinach from the bag, nuts, cheese, etc. Keeps it easy and stops me from chickening out. I will cook a steak and the occasional stir fry. Mostly i just make a salad and add some meat. Only convenience food i go for is the sugar free pudding and jello, and pre made hard boiled eggs because i hte peeling them.
 
It all depends on your current body type and goals, right? Before you begin any diet, you should at least understand the basics of nutrition and your individual caloric needs. If you are eating in caloric excess, you will gain weight. If you're eating in caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Not everyone requires the same caloric intake to maintain weight, lose weight, or gain weight... it depends on your age, sex, daily activity, etc. Google TDEE Calculator (total daily energy expenditure) to get an estimate of your personal caloric requirements.

Seems you've got a very good understanding of how "things work", but most people who jump into dieting don't understand the fundamentals of nutrition and therefore have a hard time getting anywhere.

Your body's preferred energy source is carbohydrates... so they DO have a purpose. If carbs are unavailable, your body will seek other sources of energy using stored fat and muscle... so someone looking to gain muscle mass wouldn't want to partake in a carb free diet, but someone with excessive body fat may benefit from a low carb diet.

Not all carbs are created equally... complex carbs (low glycemic index) are usually preferred over simple carbs (high glycemic index), and that is where a lot of people get into trouble. Simple carbs (sugars, white breads, white potatoes, etc) are quickly and easily digested causing a fast spike in blood sugar for a sudden increase of energy. Complex carbs (sweet potatoes, whole grains, brown rice, etc) are slowly digested causing a slower increase in blood sugar and therefore a more steady energy source.

When you eat carbs, your body breaks them down and digests them which causes a rise in blood sugar. This triggers insulin production which prompts cells to absorb the sugars from the blood to be used for energy. If energy is not used, it can be stored as fat... so excess carbohydrate intake can lead directly to fat increases. This is common with simple carbs that cause a fast spike in blood sugar... for instance, if you're like me and sit at a desk all day, consuming sugary drinks (sodas, sports drinks, etc) or chocolate bars are never a good idea. Stick to water and a healthy snack like nuts, greek yogurt, or fruit.


There is also a big difference between "good fats" and not so good fat... nuts, avocado, fish oil, olive oils, etc. are all sources of healthy fat which have been shown to aid in fat loss. Slamming processed foods with trans fats and large amounts of saturated fats is never a good idea.


All I am getting at is it is really beneficial to understand nutrition before hopping on a diet or torturing yourself with a "crash diet"... good nutrition and exercise doesn't have to be painful :) After I took the time to understood what I needed to do, being healthier has been WAY easier. I have more energy, I am stronger, and generally feel better.
 
I bulked up to about 170lbs, which at my height of 5'6" is technically obese lol. . . I wasn't fat or anything, but just round and bulky. . .

The past year an half I lost about 20 lbs just cutting down on carbs. Still ate carbs but less and most of them earlier in the day.

Controlled my diet mainly by proportion and ate more frequently. Counting calories is just too much since I'm not going to compete.

At first it was hard because I was tired and felt like I had no energy but eventually my body got used to it. I'm a bigger and healthier 150lb than I was a few years ago at 150lbs.
 
As a Dr. friend said. If it tastes good, spit it out. :(

If more people were on this diet, our lunch/dinner thread would probably be 2 pages.
 
It all depends on your current body type and goals, right? Before you begin any diet, you should at least understand the basics of nutrition and your individual caloric needs. If you are eating in caloric excess, you will gain weight. If you're eating in caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Not everyone requires the same caloric intake to maintain weight, lose weight, or gain weight... it depends on your age, sex, daily activity, etc. Google TDEE Calculator (total daily energy expenditure) to get an estimate of your personal caloric requirements.

Seems you've got a very good understanding of how "things work", but most people who jump into dieting don't understand the fundamentals of nutrition and therefore have a hard time getting anywhere.

Your body's preferred energy source is carbohydrates... so they DO have a purpose. If carbs are unavailable, your body will seek other sources of energy using stored fat and muscle... so someone looking to gain muscle mass wouldn't want to partake in a carb free diet, but someone with excessive body fat may benefit from a low carb diet.

Not all carbs are created equally... complex carbs (low glycemic index) are usually preferred over simple carbs (high glycemic index), and that is where a lot of people get into trouble. Simple carbs (sugars, white breads, white potatoes, etc) are quickly and easily digested causing a fast spike in blood sugar for a sudden increase of energy. Complex carbs (sweet potatoes, whole grains, brown rice, etc) are slowly digested causing a slower increase in blood sugar and therefore a more steady energy source.

When you eat carbs, your body breaks them down and digests them which causes a rise in blood sugar. This triggers insulin production which prompts cells to absorb the sugars from the blood to be used for energy. If energy is not used, it can be stored as fat... so excess carbohydrate intake can lead directly to fat increases. This is common with simple carbs that cause a fast spike in blood sugar... for instance, if you're like me and sit at a desk all day, consuming sugary drinks (sodas, sports drinks, etc) or chocolate bars are never a good idea. Stick to water and a healthy snack like nuts, greek yogurt, or fruit.


There is also a big difference between "good fats" and not so good fat... nuts, avocado, fish oil, olive oils, etc. are all sources of healthy fat which have been shown to aid in fat loss. Slamming processed foods with trans fats and large amounts of saturated fats is never a good idea.


All I am getting at is it is really beneficial to understand nutrition before hopping on a diet or torturing yourself with a "crash diet"... good nutrition and exercise doesn't have to be painful :) After I took the time to understood what I needed to do, being healthier has been WAY easier. I have more energy, I am stronger, and generally feel better.

You are 100% wrong. Your body's preferred source of energy is FAT. Carbohydrates provide your body with precisely nothing it cant make on its own. All carbohydrates, even the supposed good ones are empty calories. The only bad fat is trans fat.

Everything we've ever been conditioned to believe about the fat and carbohydrate relationship is completely and utterly wrong. Read the history on it. Its flat out comical reading the scientific data vs the USDA and FDA responses to it. There are natives in northern canada that not only survive but thrive on harvested fish fat and salty ice. Tell them how necessary bread, beans and potatoes are.

Its hard for most people to believe but theyve been lied to their entire life. Why? 5 reasons: m-o-n-ey. The grin farmers have huge lobbyist backing with a hand in the back pocket of the goverment. Im far from a conspiracy theorist, but its flat out true.
 
You are 100% wrong. Your body's preferred source of energy is FAT. Carbohydrates provide your body with precisely nothing it cant make on its own. All carbohydrates, even the supposed good ones are empty calories. The only bad fat is trans fat.

You don't have to believe me.... I have nothing to gain or lose by you taking my words for fact or not, but here is some useful information from those who are far more qualified to speak about nutrition than myself.

US National Library of Medicine said:
Carbohydrates are one of the main types of nutrients. They are the most important source of energy for your body. Your digestive system changes carbohydrates into glucose (blood sugar). Your body uses this sugar for energy for your cells, tissues and organs. It stores any extra sugar in your liver and muscles for when it is needed.
Carbohydrates are called simple or complex, depending on their chemical structure. Simple carbohydrates include sugars found naturally in foods such as fruits, vegetables, milk, and milk products. They also include sugars added during food processing and refining. Complex carbohydrates include whole grain breads and cereals, starchy vegetables and legumes. Many of the complex carbohydrates are good sources of fiber.
For a healthy diet, limit the amount of added sugar that you eat and choose whole grains over refined grains.



There are tons of articles out there that explain the role and benefits of carbohydrates... and then there are articles which try to explain how they are not needed... like anything in life, there are opinions for every point of view. Chose to believe what makes you happy I suppose.
 
Some people do really well on the Ketogenic diet. If you and your MD are thrilled with your condition, then stick with it.

My (very general) view- If something's not optimal, fix it. "A healthy mind in a healthy body" as the saying goes. Be your best.

If you avoid carbs, I'd sure find some other way to get (peferably mega-doses of) stuff like polyphenols.

I'm not so much "low carb" as "moderate, but low glycemic index, carb", though I'm not fanatical about it (even like a couple of pancakes w/syrup weekly and a couple of sodas). Eh, works fine for me: single-digit bodyfat for decades, lots of energy, great bloodwork numbers.

And yeah..the food pyramid, like the BMI, is a crock. Hard to believe? Heh heh heh...nah.

And quit feeding your pets stuff that contains [crap] like corn. They don't need that [stuff] any more than people do.

Ronkh said:
If more people were on this diet, our lunch/dinner thread would probably be 2 pages.

Yes indeed, and I'd be less worried about the health of some of my fellow Autopians ;)
 
You don't have to believe me.... I have nothing to gain or lose by you taking my words for fact or not, but here is some useful information from those who are far more qualified to speak about nutrition than myself.




There are tons of articles out there that explain the role and benefits of carbohydrates... and then there are articles which try to explain how they are not needed... like anything in life, there are opinions for every point of view. Chose to believe what makes you happy I suppose.
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National library of medecine... Sure, very reputable... Same people that advise on the food pyramid with the influence of lobbyists.

For the record, fiber is not a true carbohydrate as it does not break down to glucose. It is only arbitrarily classifed as one for really no good reason. It should be its own class
 
I see you're very opinionated.

Perhaps you could also fill us in on the best wax to use on a black car? That debate also needs to be put to an end once and for all ;)
 
For the record, fiber is not a true carbohydrate as it does not break down to glucose. It is only arbitrarily classifed as one for really no good reason. It should be its own class

Right, "subtract the fiber..." when looking at the nutritional info's carb number.
 
You sound very much like you drink a different kool-aid and that is fine. But you also (to me) sound a lot like a conspiracy theorist and those things are starting to sound more like a cult. I dont dislike you nor think bad of you, we just disagree on this whole thing. Im in the camp of High and Low glycemic carbs.

Your initial wording of the food pyramid made me worry about you, and now you have confirmed it. The food pyramid doesnt say X helpings of BREAD, it says grain last I knew. SO are you saying all grain is not healthy for humans?

Did you even bother to read about Tony Hortons thinking on this or are you just stuck with what you believe and wont have an open mind?
 
I see you're very opinionated.

Perhaps you could also fill us in on the best wax to use on a black car? That debate also needs to be put to an end once and for all ;)

Well unlike the black car wax scenario youre proposing, the statement that a carbohydrate provides nothing your body cant make on its own is a fact.
 
You sound very much like you drink a different kool-aid and that is fine. But you also (to me) sound a lot like a conspiracy theorist and those things are starting to sound more like a cult. I dont dislike you nor think bad of you, we just disagree on this whole thing. Im in the camp of High and Low glycemic carbs.

Your initial wording of the food pyramid made me worry about you, and now you have confirmed it. The food pyramid doesnt say X helpings of BREAD, it says grain last I knew. SO are you saying all grain is not healthy for humans?

Did you even bother to read about Tony Hortons thinking on this or are you just stuck with what you believe and wont have an open mind?

Im not calling it poison, but its pretty well documented that humans eating grains as a primary calorie source is relatively recent in history, and that our bodies flat out work better without them.

Youre certainly allowed to eat them if youd like, but theyre not particularly beneficial.
 
At the end of the day "going on a diet" isn't really the appropriate way to combat weight gain or whatever you're looking to accomplish health wise.

It doesn't provide a sustainable lifestyle adjustment. You have to correct all of the behaviors that lead to the unhealthiness. That means eat less and move more. It's actually pretty simple, but not easy. Another reason low carb diets work so well IMO is because high-carb foods are already calorie-dense to begin with.
 
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