any wheel sealant non believers here?

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imported_steveo3002

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just wondered if anyone else doesnt buy into the wheel sealant thing?:nixweiss



they mostly seem to claim that the product leaves behind some kind of mega high temp protective shield behind, my thinking is nothing leaves behind more that a microscopic layer , certainly nothing thick enough to form a sheild between the wheel and hot brake dust, and the high temp claim, well our regular bunch of favorite waxes and sealants are used in what i imagine must be close to the same temp (i.e a black hood parked in the AZ sun) so if our regular bunch of products wont hold up to heat, why dont they sell special waxes to suit hotter sunny climates



anyone got any thoughts? im thinking if your happy to use whatever wax/sealant on your $$$$$$$ car body then it should hold up just fine on the wheels too
 
I've said this before. The black hood in the sun does not come close to the temps your wheels get, especially under heavy stop and go braking. Just a trip to your local road course and you will see brakes glowing red hot. Even on the equator I have never seen a car's hood glow red hot. But, if you are happy using regular wax on your wheels and it does the trick for you I say stick with it.
 
surley if were talking track cars or hard driven, there could be a red hot turbo inches under the hood?



im not here to bad mouth wheel sealant...just trying to get a understanding if theyre a genuine good idea or a marketing trick to sell a extra product
 
I use wheel sealants for the wheels and paint sealants for the vehicle's paint. The same as I use polishes for swirl removal. I also use products from manufacturers that I trust. Not from hype but from hands on experience.



If you are satisfied with a paint sealant protecting your wheels far be it for me to try and get you to change. For my vehicles I read the directions of the products of manufacturers that I trust and apply as directed.
 
steveo3002 said:
surley if were talking track cars or hard driven, there could be a red hot turbo inches under the hood?



im not here to bad mouth wheel sealant...just trying to get a understanding if theyre a genuine good idea or a marketing trick to sell a extra product
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Oh I know you are not bad mouthing. Like I said, if a standard wax works fine for you then so be it. Personally, I use Blitz Wax on my wheels and not a wheel sealant. I was simply stating the "reason" behind the special wheel sealants.
 
Danase said:
I've said this before. The black hood in the sun does not come close to the temps your wheels get, especially under heavy stop and go braking. Just a trip to your local road course and you will see brakes glowing red hot.
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Yeah, but you don't have wheel wax on your rotors. I have never gotten my wheels too hot to touch (I have never driven on the track), but my hood has gotten that way plenty of times. Besides that, if your wheel was getting anywhere near red hot...you'd be in a lot of trouble with your tires, and I think your wheel wax would be a distant concern.



We've been around this discussion before and IMO wheels on a street car don't get as hot as a dark car in the summer sun. And I agree with Bence, if wheel sealant/wax is so good, it should be fine on the body...which just makes it another wax/sealant with a different marketing approach.
 
Bence said:
Then a wheel sealant with good optics should work excellent on the body too...
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I don't see why not....as long as you are happy with the looks and performance on the paint.
 
has anyone ever proved at what point a product fails to protect?? like zaino, klasse and so on



ive seen wheels where the hot particles seem to have melted into the wheel's finish..i just cant see how any product would stop that?



and how come some of the most respected and oldest companys have no wheel wax products



the way i see it:) its like how zymol sell you a red wax for a red car, black for black , italian wax for italian cars (what if you have a red itailan car:idea ) no doubt theyre decent products but i feel its just to sell extra products when one would do just fine
 
steveo3002 said:
has anyone ever proved at what point a product fails to protect?? like zaino, klasse and so on



ive seen wheels where the hot particles seem to have melted into the wheel's finish..i just cant see how any product would stop that?
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I don't know about Klasse but, I use wax and sometimes Z2 on my polished clear coated wheels. As far as durability, don't hold your breath. For me it helps keep brake dust down and they are easier to clean next time around. I've heard about Zoop for just polished wheels but, I don't know anyone who has tried it....
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, but you don't have wheel wax on your rotors. I have never gotten my wheels too hot to touch (I have never driven on the track), but my hood has gotten that way plenty of times. Besides that, if your wheel was getting anywhere near red hot...you'd be in a lot of trouble with your tires, and I think your wheel wax would be a distant concern.



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What you're saying is excellent common sense. I HAVE driven on the track (on limited occasions) - and I can't say how hot the wheels got as i didn't touch them - but for a road car, I know from experience that your wheels don't get anywhere near as hot as your hood, with a hot engine, in the summer sun.
 
I don't see the typical road driven car's wheel getting that hot.



I would think the rotational forces and brake dust would be the worst enemies.
 
I dont see the point myself.

If you wash once a week or every 2 weeks there really is no need to use a sealant.

It may be useful to use a sealant in the winter but even then i can only see it being useful if you have polished aluminum rims.
 
I must admit that I bought into the hype but I also bought a lot of other stuff. I have had the hood on my black car so hot that I couldn't touch it.......and the sun wasn't out.
 
I used to treat the wheels with Klasse, IW, etc. I use wheel cleaner virtually everytime I wash a car so spending time sealing/waxing wheels is a waste since the wheels cleaners quickly remove whatever has been laid down.



I certainly do use a polish (maybe a 1-step product) when the summer tires/wheels are put in the basement as there is a need to remove tar, gum, road junk, etc.



If I didn't use a wheel cleaner, I can't see any downside, apart from cost of material, to protecting the wheels as I do the painted surfaces of the car.



Hint: Michelin's Brake Dust Repellant fits well into my routine. ;)
 
I use whatever I have around, if I have time to wax my factory-painted, clear coated wheels.

I try to just use soap& water to clean them. Works great most of the time. Using something that is easy-on/off is your best bet. Auto Glym Super Resin polish, and S100 are my usual 2 choices. I really can't see going out and buying a can of special wax just for rims. But I can't knock someone who does, because I haven't tried a wheel wax/sealant, nor do I own rims of a value that would entice me to do so...
 
I use PB wheel sealant cause I got it during one of his anniversary sales so I piad less the normal cost. I ordered other stuff so I said why not....
 
I know the wife can get the wheels on her 7 series pretty hot from normal braking. But that is an exceptional braking system on a 4250lbs car. Hot enough where I don't want to spray them down right when she comes home.



I have used prime on a few customers wheels after I clean them. I have got very good feedback on that process.
 
Now ask yourself this. A wax like 845 is built for high temp applications like high voltage power lines and protects from extremely high heat...and also cars..would it be as good for wheels?
 
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