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Mikeyc said:Never used these towels. I have gone 100% microfiber. I recommend everyone do the same. It has been proven that microfiber towels scratch less than even the best cotton towels. The scratching may not be apparent immediately, but it builds over time.
He probably means his towel stock is 100% MF rather than that he has found 100% MF towels.3Dog said:Where do you buy 100% MF....I have seen some edgeless that may be considered 100%.... the newest thing to come down the pike is to use silk edges. I would say most that you buy retail have pretty rough edges that you need to be aware of.
I dont believe 100% cotton will scratch.....now what binding it has and how you treat them may cause problems.
Yep..I am trying to remember something more than paste wax in a tin when I was a teen starting out.CharlesW said:He probably means his towel stock is 100% MF rather than that he has found 100% MF towels.
While I do use MF almost exclusively, I do still have some good cotton towels that I used for years with no bad effects. I don't think I would be afraid to use them today.
Remember that while MF has been popular for what, 5 years? Some of us have been trying to take care of our cars somewhat longer than that.
Charles
Actually, there were quite a few liquid waxes when I was a kid. Johnson's, DuPont are a couple I can remember.3Dog said:Yep..I am trying to remember something more than paste wax in a tin when I was a teen starting out.
CharlesW said:He probably means his towel stock is 100% MF rather than that he has found 100% MF towels.
While I do use MF almost exclusively, I do still have some good cotton towels that I used for years with no bad effects. I don't think I would be afraid to use them today.
Remember that while MF has been popular for what, 5 years? Some of us have been trying to take care of our cars somewhat longer than that.
Charles
Keep in mind that until just the last couple of years, Sal Zaino was still recommending the use of 100% cotton towels and did not recommend MF towels at all.Mikeyc said:You are 100% correct. :lol: I was saying that all my towels are microfiber. Microfiber is not necessarily a material. Microfiber itself is made from polyester and other synthetic fibers.
I saw someone mention the silk edging found on some MF towels. This is not actual silk, but rather microfiber constructed in a way that it feels/looks similar to silk.
OK. I have to admit I am somewhat anti-cotton. Only because MF is so great IMO. The problem with saying that something worked fine "back then" so it must work fine now is that often advances in technology will create a new standard of performance. The Model T worked fine way back when, but I wouldn't want to try driving one on the highway these days. :lol:
CharlesW said:Keep in mind that until just the last couple of years, Sal Zaino was still recommending the use of 100% cotton towels and did not recommend MF towels at all.
Something that did work fine "back then" can still work fine now. Good wine, for instance.
Hey, I'm not one to push "the good old days". I was there and this is the good days. The quality products of today are far superior to most of what was available to us back then. The junk stuff is just that, but it was back then, too.
Charles
On the subject of Sal Zaino , this is another example of why I don't read his website and I don't buy his products. I've seen too much bad/wrong information which has come from his website.
I would love to see what that Johnson Waxwould look like today on a clearcoat finish.CharlesW said:Actually, there were quite a few liquid waxes when I was a kid. Johnson's, DuPont are a couple I can remember.
Paste Simoniz was the so-called durability wax. If difficulty in using it equates to durability, it should have been right up there.
This one is even a little before my time.
Charles
SilverLexus said:???? Sal has only recommended really high quality cotton towels. The rest of the site is very informative and full of good information.
I don't worship at the Zaino altar but I do find most of the products to work very well. Mikeyc, I think you should use the products before passing judgment. Zaino is one of the better companies in the business in my opinion.
Mikeyc said:You are 100% correct. :lol: I was saying that all my towels are microfiber. Microfiber is not necessarily a material. Microfiber itself is made from polyester and other synthetic fibers.
I saw someone mention the silk edging found on some MF towels. This is not actual silk, but rather microfiber constructed in a way that it feels/looks similar to silk.
OK. I have to admit I am somewhat anti-cotton. Only because MF is so great IMO. The problem with saying that something worked fine "back then" so it must work fine now is that often advances in technology will create a new standard of performance. The Model T worked fine way back when, but I wouldn't want to try driving one on the highway these days. :lol:
This was a response from Leo in this thread 100% cotton towels badOriginally quoted by DFtowel
woah there guys, lots of bad mis-information here! First of all, MF refers to the size of the yarn, NOT what it is made of.
Keep in mind that there are many polyester MF towels that will indeed scratch and there are many that won't. Conversely, there are many cottons that will scratch and many that won't. You need to know what to look for and choose wisely.
As far as lint (called shedding in the industry) is concerned any good towel will wash that out after a wash or two.
IMO there is nothing better or safer than premium cottons such as Pima and related cottons.
Mikeyc said:I'm not passing judgement on his products. They might be very good. All the pictures I've ever seen of people who use them look good. I just don't trust them. I just can't and won't buy products from a company that doesn't recommend MF's (apparently now he does), recommends washing with Dawn, and claims their clay is non-abrasive.