Any Experience??

Exactly!



Thanks, Pat!!



Andy
Pats300zx said:
Can we try and keep this thread civil. I think Andy is just looking for some info on what he should be on the lookout for or anything that might not be expected.
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I see both sides of this, but I personally feel exactly like Andy does: I'd rather have some type of background knowledge on any car I'll be working on. I don't care if I work on an Italian exotic or a 10 year old daily driver. I want to know as much as possible about the leather, carpet, suede/alcantara, body materials, paint, clear, emblems, plastic/glass headlight housings and tail light housings, exhaust tips, and any other material used on the vehicle. I feel it is important to not only continuously research all aspects of this profession, but to learn what I can from anyone else that's done "autopian style" detailing.



I look forward to seeing the sure to come beautiful work on this vehicle, and good luck on it!

Marc
 
Hrm, I debated posting, and here I am. I am not sure where the disconnect is here. The OP is working on a car he hasn't worked on before and wants info on it. I understand that. Nevermind the price of the car or the use of exotic materials, he's asking for info in the event that he runs into something he may not have experienced. There is nothing wrong with being prepared; in fact I'd say being prepared is part of bringing your "a-game".



In terms of "doing the best work he can", of course he is going to. That isn't why he started the thread. I don't know, this all seems pretty straight-forward to me.



Andy, I've worked on one Zonda; it was just like working on an F40 or Enzo, thin paint on carbon. It shouldn't confront you with any strange issues. Enjoy.
 
You'll get the work! Just touch base and shoot him an occasional e-mail - I'll send you his e-mail addy. Show him some work you've done - the Lambo, etc.



Andy
toyotaguy said:
sounds good to me!!! Cant wait to see what may come of it!
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Oh trust me I have nothing but faith in Andy. He's one of the few people on here I tend to talk to IRL on any sort of regular basis. And knowledge is power for sure. Which is why I said no one should ever be discouraged from coming on here and asking.



I guess Instead of saying the question just doesn't matter I'll switch it around and ask... how is knowing any of this going to change your gameplan? Is knowing the paint is 6 mils and not 10 mils going to change how you correct it? (examples only I have no clue what it really is) Or is the fact that it has Italian leather going to require a different approch than say having Araibian leather? To me none of this would matter.. You still have to approch it all the same way regardless. I guess knowing what it all is makes things easier to talk to the customer with so they can identify what your talking about. However I don't see how knowing any of it helps with the detail. It's corrected when it's corrected and not a second before. And like I said before just because Detailer A used brand "X" and got great results dosen't mean you will. And just becuase you got great results with Brand "Y" dosen't mean I can go out and grab brand "Y" and get those results. either. Now I don't think anyone doubts that Andy is going to knock this one out of the park. I personally like everyone else can't wait for the write up when your done. But for kicks and giggles let me know how knowing any of the items listed is going to change your approch to the detail? I'm always willing to learn more. Maybe this is just something I'm missing out on.
 
Knowing how much product I have to work with is, at least for me, always information I am happy to have! As previously stated, I always measure paint before undertaking any correction. And, just as I would if I were seeking employment with a company, I want the prospective employer to know that I have done my reserach and possess as much knowledge as is necessary to assist me in best performing the duties I am being considered for.



This client has had me service his cars for some time now. And, frankly, he has always spent a great deal of time with me prior to my beginning any project for him. He asks questions and likes to know what and why I choose to undertake a particular path. And, I guess if he is willing to turn me loose on another $2m car, I should not only be willing but, obliged to accomodate and accurately - to the best of my ability - answer his queires and demonstrate that I have done my homework pertaining to the product I'm about to service. Yeah, other than how much time and $ is spent on the car is not going to change all that much.



But, frankly, I am not comfortable, as it appears some of those who have posted are, answering one of my clients queries with, "I don't know. But, it doesn't make a difference."



Sorry fellas, that's just not how I roll!



Andy
Jakerooni said:
Oh trust me I have nothing but faith in Andy. He's one of the few people on here I tend to talk to IRL on any sort of regular basis. And knowledge is power for sure. Which is why I said no one should ever be discouraged from coming on here and asking.



I guess Instead of saying the question just doesn't matter I'll switch it around and ask... how is knowing any of this going to change your gameplan? Is knowing the paint is 6 mils and not 10 mils going to change how you correct it? (examples only I have no clue what it really is) Or is the fact that it has Italian leather going to require a different approch than say having Araibian leather? To me none of this would matter.. You still have to approch it all the same way regardless. I guess knowing what it all is makes things easier to talk to the customer with so they can identify what your talking about. However I don't see how knowing any of it helps with the detail. It's corrected when it's corrected and not a second before. And like I said before just because Detailer A used brand "X" and got great results dosen't mean you will. And just becuase you got great results with Brand "Y" dosen't mean I can go out and grab brand "Y" and get those results. either. Now I don't think anyone doubts that Andy is going to knock this one out of the park. I personally like everyone else can't wait for the write up when your done. But for kicks and giggles let me know how knowing any of the items listed is going to change your approch to the detail? I'm always willing to learn more. Maybe this is just something I'm missing out on.
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Jakerooni said:
I guess Instead of saying the question just doesn't matter I'll switch it around and ask... how is knowing any of this going to change your gameplan? Is knowing the paint is 6 mils and not 10 mils going to change how you correct it?
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I've had people warn me about thin paint...so thin that I couldn't *do* anything near 100% correction lest it be impossible to ever polish it again. Six vs. ten mils is one thing, but when it gets down to scary-thin it can make a diff.



Best example of this was on a repainted car (the '60 Jag I've posted about) where the thicknesses were all over the map (some panels redone many times, others only once and then wetsanded) to where I couldn't make the usual assumptions based on my ETG. I took the owner's word for it and treated the areas in question very gently...had I caused an "oops!" right before show season it would've been a disaster :sosad
 
Zonda, me thinks this car is the poo........... clear over carbon as stated, medium clear hardness so correction will be straight foward. There will be no pigtails or sanding scratches a la" Ferrari or Aston, Pagani is the carbon fiber master and the car is carbon fiber head to toe!!!! of course the interior is smallness so I do not fit good(that's a suprise lol).



Megs 105 / Menz RD combo should be sufficient. Take mega pics as the one I did I was not allowed to take pics(nervous uber wealthy client) you will find yourself working very slow on this car as it will seem surreal that you are actually detailing this car.



One of my favorite parts of the car was the exhaust and the wood steering wheel(sublimeness), but the wheels were a polish with clear and had a matte dull finish even after working on them for a long time.
 
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