Alternative to Zaino

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apotelyt

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i'm looking for alternatives to the Zaino system, ie sealant base. Would like to hear from all of you based on your experiences and recommendations..



TIA..
 
TigerMike said:
Duragloss 105 TPP sealant



As good as Z in my opinion.
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I agree, a great one.



If looking for something different than the Z look then again DG, but I really like PB EX, EXP, Detailers Paradise EPIC. Have not tried it yet, but JW Prime gets some very good press.



It all depends on what you are looking for: durability (still Z, if something similar then DG), carnauba-like look, wettness, shine, ease of use ect.
 
Werkstatt has been good to me when I don't feel like using Zaino. My other favorite sealants include WG, UPP, and EX-P.
 
Why do you need an alternative?



I would stick with the best product. I've tried everything and Zaino has the most flake pop of anything on my silver paint.
 
SilverLexus said:
Why do you need an alternative?



I would stick with the best product. I've tried everything and Zaino has the most flake pop of anything on my silver paint.
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Ditto!!!



Unfortunately, we both went looking for something better only to find that the grass was as green and full as it is going to get with proper Prep. :(
 
SilverLexus said:
Why do you need an alternative?



I would stick with the best product. I've tried everything and Zaino has the most flake pop of anything on my silver paint.
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Well, there are a lot of variables and subjective interpretations open there. Maybe different colors of silver have different levels of flake and different products may work better (again, subjective) on different colors.



I don't guess I get the whole flake pop thing. You're putting a micro thin layer of liquid or paste on your paint, buffing off all exess product, and you're left with what exactly on the paint? Does Natty's Blue leave a blue film on the paint? Does Z2Pro leave a pink colored film on the paint? How about M21? A purple film? If this were the case, it seems clear colored products (How many of THOSE are there... TW ICE?) would allow the best "flake pop."
 
Since the OP is from Malaysia, perhaps Z is hard to come by or is very expensive.



Z is a good product, but it's not the only good one..and I wouldn't pay double for it over another great product.



What product lines are easily available in Malaysia?
 
I have, like, and use Zaino. So this is nothing to do with that. Only that a statement saying why use anything else if you have the best is too general imo - it may be the best for YOU iyo. But, I use other products too because I feel that they are sometimes better for ME imo (eg. on my black car, if I use a sealant without a caruaba topper, I personally favor DG 105 or WG).



That is the great thing about a forum and the OP question - this way we can help narrow down the options and maybe he would then try a couple and come up with his own favorite. Again prep makes everything look great :o .
 
We can't get Zaino in Malaysia...the nearest distributor is located in Singapore. The other factor is also cost..By the time Zaino gets shipped to Singapore and if i were to order it from the Singapore distributor, it works out to be about 1.7 times what you guys can buy from the US..



I'm looking at an alternative product to the Z system, in terms:



1. Durability

2. Ease of use

3. Looks..should rival the looks of Z as well.



the forum is a great place and i do appreciate all the responses i've been getting. I have not tried Duragloss. So far, i've tried Zaino and Klasse twins. The looks are quite different btw Z and Klasse. I prep using Menzerna polishes..



We don't get many good products in Malaysia. The other problem with Z is the distribution...Territorial rights. I'm forced to purchase from the distributor in Singapore even if the prices of the Z is much cheaper in the US..which is the main reason for me to look at alternatives.
 
BlackSunshine said:
I don't guess I get the whole flake pop thing. You're putting a micro thin layer of liquid or paste on your paint, buffing off all exess product, and you're left with what exactly on the paint? Does Natty's Blue leave a blue film on the paint? Does Z2Pro leave a pink colored film on the paint? How about M21? A purple film? If this were the case, it seems clear colored products (How many of THOSE are there... TW ICE?) would allow the best "flake pop."
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Here's my take on it . . . some LSPs are extremely clear and bright (Zaino, DG, UPP), some will "darken" the paint (NXT, glaze+carnauba, etc.). In my experience, the "clear and bright" sealants give the greatest "pop" to the flake. The sealants/waxes that make the paint appear a shade or two darker tend to mute the metallic effect slightly. On my WRX, the flake is large enough and has enough "flip" to it that it still pops pretty well even if I'm using a glaze and carnauba, so I can play with depth vs. clarity, and still see a pretty big metallic effect. My gf's Forester has a much, much finer size on the metallic flake, and using NXT or a glaze+carnauba cuts down on the sparkle a bit (better depth at the expense of clarity).



IMO, it ends up being a "horses for courses" type of problem. Big flake that can show through anything? Dealer's choice. Extremely fine metallic or pearl coats? I stick with sealants that tend to finish bright and clear.



My $0.02,

Tort
 
apotelyt said:
We can't get Zaino in Malaysia...the nearest distributor is located in Singapore. The other factor is also cost..By the time Zaino gets shipped to Singapore and if i were to order it from the Singapore distributor, it works out to be about 1.7 times what you guys can buy from the US..



I'm looking at an alternative product to the Z system, in terms:



1. Durability

2. Ease of use

3. Looks..should rival the looks of Z as well.



the forum is a great place and i do appreciate all the responses i've been getting. I have not tried Duragloss. So far, i've tried Zaino and Klasse twins. The looks are quite different btw Z and Klasse. I prep using Menzerna polishes..



We don't get many good products in Malaysia. The other problem with Z is the distribution...Territorial rights. I'm forced to purchase from the distributor in Singapore even if the prices of the Z is much cheaper in the US..which is the main reason for me to look at alternatives.
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So what is the difference between Klasse and Z (I Just started using Klasse and haven't tried Z yet).

Since you like their polishes, what about Menzerna's Acrylic Jacket ? (Question, nit a recommnedation since I haven't tried this either).
 
I don't guess I get the whole flake pop thing. You're putting a micro thin layer of liquid or paste on your paint, buffing off all exess product, and you're left with what exactly on the paint? Does Natty's Blue leave a blue film on the paint?
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Good questions. Here is the answer that I found by experience - optical clarity! Zaino is simply one of the most optically clear products in my arsenal. I like Natty's and Souveran a lot as well but they are not as optically clear. I have also not found other sealants to be as clear.
 
Werkstatt's Prime and Acrylic Jett. Similar system to Klasse (acrylic sealant) but easier to use and IMO, looks better than Z2 Pro and every other sealant I have used. Durability is very good too, similar to Klasse and Zaino.
 
The newer DG 105 is very clear....clearer than it's predessecors....That is one thing the DG chemist stated over and over...very opticly clear....a very wel looking priduct...



I never tried zaino...and can not comment on it..I see results and they look fine...but I can comment on alot of the other boutique products..and they are not as clear as 105...



I can not comment on Jeff's products also...but on my list to try....they do seem like a interesting product...



I have pre VOC AIO and SG and 105 is clearer than them...and as durable...



Al
 
apotelyt said:
We can't get Zaino in Malaysia....
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You can order Duragloss from the U.S with no problems, I ordered mine from the US and although shipping was expensive it still works out cheaper than buying some similar products in Australia.



I'm not sure of the rules of this forum otherwise I would post up the website. Can someone confirm that I can ?
 
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