Alternative to M105

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ThrillHo

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So I'm just about all the way through my first 32oz. bottle of M105, and I would like to try something else. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great product and has worked flawlessly on certain paints and for spot corrections and/or removing 2k grit wet sanding marks and/or heavy oxidation. But with so many products out there, I can't imagine that there isn't something just as good. I also know a lot of this is personal preference, and personally I'd prefer to try something else. Can you guys recommend some alternatives to M105 with roughly the same level of cut?
 
gtechniq p1 seems like a good alternative to M105. From Menzerna the only option in terms of cut seems to be power gloss, which drives me batty. I think some people find SIP to be close for cut, I don't. UNO is nice too, although again I don't find it cuts as well as M105 (though it can finish exceptionally well). If I had to pick one to try it'd be the gtechniq.
 
While UNO might not have quite the cut of 105, to me, its more time efficient. I can't not make a terrible mess with 105. A mess that needs an hour to clean up. I'd rather use a more aggressive pad and do another pass than spend time cleaning dust out of everything.
 
Picus said:
gtechniq p1 seems like a good alternative to M105. From Menzerna the only option in terms of cut seems to be power gloss, which drives me batty. I think some people find SIP to be close for cut, I don't. UNO is nice too, although again I don't find it cuts as well as M105 (though it can finish exceptionally well). If I had to pick one to try it'd be the gtechniq.
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Yikes! $63 for a bottle of this stuff! #105 is half that!



Jim
 
Used the new Uno with Megs. MF pads last week- results were great with both UNO and Correction Creme. Cleaning those pads with air is my new favorite thing in detailing!!!



For my black (flat) BMW, the UNO is softer or less aggressive than the Megs. CC. As stated, maybe try different pad combos with UNO- sometimes you don't have to change the product to get better results. I use 105 too, but the dust kills me---someday I'll be good enough to not have all the dust- perhaps. :)



Rob
 
I'm a little surprsised by all the "dust!" comments about M105. Yeah, it does more dusting than, say...OHC (which doesn't cut nearly as aggressively), but M105 is *NOTHING* at all dust-wise compared to my old faves from the 3M PI-III line, not even close.



I buff off the M105 before it's completely dry, wonder if that makes a diff :think:
 
tdekany said:
Gtechique is a medium polish at best. It isn't a match for 105.
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Really? In Daves thread P1 seemed to cut as well as 105. Either way, I haven't used P1, so I don't know. Personally I'd stick with 105 for heavy cutting, and use D300/UNO for everything else.



As for dust and 105, I've never found it to be an issue either but like Accum I am sort of used to older style stuff that would dust like nuts. Maybe the rest of you are just spoiled. :P
 
It is no match for UNO either. Nice polish though, but in my hands it isn't a "compound". 105 dusts a bit too much for me, but I have been spoiled by UNO.
 
Optimum Hyper Compound is pretty good, less dusting too. Newest version is more aggressive than the first, Hyper Polish slightly less.
 
Accumulator said:
I'm a little surprsised by all the "dust!" comments about M105. Yeah, it does more dusting than, say...OHC (which doesn't cut nearly as aggressively), but M105 is *NOTHING* at all dust-wise compared to my old faves from the 3M PI-III line, not even close.



I buff off the M105 before it's completely dry, wonder if that makes a diff :think:
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Aint that the truth. 3M PI III Machine Glaze is a wonderful product but the dust was unbelievable. I had to wear a dust mask when working with it. Now I'm using Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and find it to be an equal if not superior product without the dusting! I also remove before completely dry and this helps. My pads are always primed with a spray or two of QD as well.
 
I compared GTechniq P1 to Meguiars #105 in this thread: http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing/135964-non-diminishing-abrasives-test-meguiars-vs-gtechniq.html



I found that both P1 and M105 were comparitive in this test in terms of cut, however I have been testing M105 again using other techniques with water spritzes and the use of wool and water spritzes and have been seeing a bit more cut again from it. Still, in my opinion and in my experience of the products, P1 has a good degree of cut and is one I would recommend for heavier correction work both on foam and wool.



However, there is one caveat to this... in the UK, P1 costs just over £30 which is only marginally greater than the cost of M105 so cost wise it compares more favourably here. I imagine that this is because it is a UK based company that it is more competitively prices over here?
 
Dave KG said:
I compared GTechniq P1 to Meguiars #105 in this thread: http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing/135964-non-diminishing-abrasives-test-meguiars-vs-gtechniq.html



I found that both P1 and M105 were comparitive in this test in terms of cut, however I have been testing M105 again using other techniques with water spritzes and the use of wool and water spritzes and have been seeing a bit more cut again from it. Still, in my opinion and in my experience of the products, P1 has a good degree of cut and is one I would recommend for heavier correction work both on foam and wool.



However, there is one caveat to this... in the UK, P1 costs just over £30 which is only marginally greater than the cost of M105 so cost wise it compares more favourably here. I imagine that this is because it is a UK based company that it is more competitively prices over here?
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Your test was the reason I mentioned P1 at all. As I said I haven't tried it personally but if I was looking for an alternative to 105 I would probably check it out.
 
UNO (if using the appropriate amount) has superior cutting power.



Picus said:
Your test was the reason I mentioned P1 at all. As I said I haven't tried it personally but if I was looking for an alternative to 105 I would probably check it out.
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Having not used M105, but from reading about others using it, I would give UNO a try. This is based on from me reading that others said M105 is hard to clean up, whereas UNO is simple and quick to wipe away.
 
Indeed. You want even less with the new version which goes a long way - this is of course for removing imperfections, heavy cutting.
 
tdekany- Thanks for clarifying.



For some reason the UNO sounds like it might not be quite, uhm...Accumulator proof :nervous:



I'm envisioning a) no pad priming, b) just a few small, pea-size dots of product on the pad, and c) reloading with a few more small pea-size dots.
 
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