Alpine backup camera

I have a doulble din by them, I plan on installing their drop in rear camera as well. Overall they are second to none. Quality is just awesome and the feel is excellent.
 
Looking for a good picture quality. I have a double din also . The price is all over the place from 100.00 to 400.00
 
Anyone...remember MIRRORS?

I detest the backup camera, and "alerts" in me last two cars. Anyone know how to drive a car, these days? Puleeeze.........Learn how to drive?

Please be kind to a forum member that doesn't need a back-up cam?
 
OpenRoad said:
Anyone...remember MIRRORS?

I detest the backup camera, and "alerts" in me last two cars. Anyone know how to drive a car, these days? Puleeeze.........Learn how to drive?

Please be kind to a forum member that doesn't need a back-up cam?
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Anyone remember bodyline's that weren't just for looks?

These days many cars including both of mine (Rx7 FD & Volvo S60R) both have poor visibility. The volvo especially because of it's raised trunk. Having a back up camera is more then just a connivence...

Do you live in a city? Try NYC where ever inch counts that camera helps a huge amount, not to mention it see's in blind spots where little children may one day sneek by.

Oh and for the record I was a valet for 4 years, back up cams are the s***! I can paraell perfect without but it's 10000x easier with.
 
The Driver said:
Anyone remember bodyline's that weren't just for looks?

These days many cars including both of mine (Rx7 FD & Volvo S60R) both have poor visibility. The volvo especially because of it's raised trunk. Having a back up camera is more then just a connivence...

Do you live in a city? Try NYC where ever inch counts that camera helps a huge amount, not to mention it see's in blind spots where little children may one day sneek by.

Oh and for the record I was a valet for 4 years, back up cams are the s***! I can paraell perfect without but it's 10000x easier with.
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Just want to agree with your comment about NYC. When you're parking in the city an the spot is very tight that back up camera helps a lot. Other than that I feel people end up relying on all that stuff too much and forget they actually have to be alert. Rain sensing wipers? For real if you don't know you have to turn wipers on in the pouring rain your issues may be a little deeper.
 
jvs1991 said:
Just want to agree with your comment about NYC. When you're parking in the city an the spot is very tight that back up camera helps a lot. Other than that I feel people end up relying on all that stuff too much and forget they actually have to be alert. Rain sensing wipers? For real if you don't know you have to turn wipers on in the pouring rain your issues may be a little deeper.
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I agree, however aids like this are a necessity. They are for the greater good of all. You must also realize one very scary fact... These aids may save your life from one of the biggest growing threats on the road today, senior citizens. People are living longer and longer, although their bodies are, their minds are still deteriorating... this couple with the fact that NO STATE has any license recertification program is just plain wrong. Hopefully these aids can help substitute for their lack of ability.

Volvo's BLIS & pedestrian warning and stop feature are real life savers and I personally have seen back up camera's save several people from potentially serious injury.

Don't get me wrong, my other car is a 1993 Rx7, I love the fact that its RAW. A machine that tries to kill me, no abs, no air bag it's all on you but again I'm an above average driver who is religious about safety, rules of the road and "Just" driving.

I think there's a big misconception with technology and cars today, the bad per say... Yes there are some bad. Any distraction such as texts being forwarded to an in dash an such. People should not be texting and driving, it's one of the most dangerous things to do. That is an example of bad technology, aid's on the other hand not so much.

As wise person once said... Cars are evolving, unfortunately the people who drive them don't...
 
There's a lot of things in life you don't need but we still persue all the nick nacks that interest us . Why is there always one person that his life must so sad that they have to bash a freekin camera thread .
 
I think he was just making a point about the gadgets that are being added to cars to give people an excuse to now know how to drive properly/safely. Like the rain sensing wipers, blind spot monitors (can we really no longer turn our heads and look?), automatic braking, alerts for drifting from your lane. Some day there will be a time when people won't be able to safely drive a car without all the bells and whistles
 
TheDriver: I hate to confess openly, that I AM a Senior Citizen. Shame on me, despite having a clean driving record, except for one speeding ticket in a great Jag six years ago. I figger the coppers are just afraid to pull me over?

Have driven multiple convertibles for the last 17-plus years for personal rides, many having "blind spots" due to flawed rag top designs, and other "body line" design faults. I do agree that many modern car designers have forgotten about offering good sight from the cockpit, just to produce a cooool body design.

Before drop tops, I drove 3/4 T (or larger) pickups/trucks much of me life. When your rear view window is "blacked out" from the onboard load, Ya gotta use mirrors? Also have driven several rental cars throughout the EU into some pretty tight "old-city" locations" (FIRST...fold back de mirrors..or...scrape, even in a tiny Fiat?!).

People are waaay to dependent on "gadgets that are being added to cars" (Thanks, ShaneB).

Learn to DRIVE, or stay off the road? I see the morons everyday, some drunk, some texting, reading paperbacks, whatever..on infinitum. Others running red lights routinely (Is it the "young" who have forgotten how to drive?).

I like to keep my fassst, expensive, car clean n'shiny, and my insurance record spotless as well. Use Yo brain, and your mirrors? Not the gadgets......
 
I am a senior and I have a backup camera on my Charger, I use it when I have to. I am more afraid on the road of people talking on the phone and texing than I am of older people driving. God willing you will all be seniors driving and you my need these aids.
 
I think the big answer here is, if a gadget saves just one life after being installed on thousands... Yes. I think people are being outright stubborn and it's pathetic. These people are reactive, in simple terms unless the gadget saves them it does no good to the general population... Sad.

Open road - take my comments how you like, I will always be one to choose what's in the best interest for the overall than one. If you would completely interpret my statement then you would know its valid. I'm a strong advocate of license renewal. I think it's outright insane that a test you pass over half a century still gives you the credential to operate a 4000 pound piece of machinery. So I am against seniors driving, no... I am against people who aren't coherent enough to drive and endanger the welfare of others yes. But hey shame on me for stating a VERY OBVIOUS problem we have.

Fun fact of the day...

2 years ago the highest automotive fatality cause in the us was drunk driving at 12,998. Guess what was right up there with it? Senior citizens at 7295.
 
jvs1991 said:
Just want to agree with your comment about NYC. When you're parking in the city an the spot is very tight that back up camera helps a lot. Other than that I feel people end up relying on all that stuff too much and forget they actually have to be alert. Rain sensing wipers? For real if you don't know you have to turn wipers on in the pouring rain your issues may be a little deeper.
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You are looking at this all wrong.

Technology is cool, even if its worthless. The problem is, things like automatic windshield wipers are worthless because apparently some people need them...

What is scary is that people who do need them are in the car next to you, behind you, or aiming for the spot you occupy on the road.

I personally don't need things like automatic braking and safety zones, but I am glad they are there for the people around me.

Same thing with back up cameras (although I think they are awesome). I grew up in Chicago and back into most spots with no problem. That said, plenty of people cannot, and if that camera helps them to avoid ruining my car, I'm all for it. I wouldn't complain at all if a car I owned had one either. It makes backing up that much easier and accurate.
 
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