AIO problems and more...

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golfdude

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So, I got a new windshield due to a crack from a rock. Well, immediately after the glass was installed, I applied AIO like I always do, with a Sonus MF applicator, and then I buffed it off with a MF towel. Today I went on a rainy road trip and it seems the AIO rain repelling feature is gone or non-existant. Does anyone know why this could be? What's even more odd is that I applied my AIO months ago on my rear glass and it still beads!



Secondly, I've not been satisfied with my glass cleaning as much as I thought. Basically, I get the glass looking nice with either PB S&W or Prima Glass cleaner. I pull the car out in the sun, and streaks are revealed when the sun hits the glass at a very SPECIFIC angle...any ideas how to remove or prevent this? Thanks everyone :2thumbs:
 
well if i were you id top aio with ksg, i mean you do want durability and sheeting action right? im not convinced of aio being the best thing for glass as a standalone glass protector/water repeller. hit it up with some shrink proof sg and try to prevent another chip!
 
See, I've used AIO on my windshields for a long time now, and this has never happened before. I think there is a bonding issue between this new windshield and the AIO, and this is what I want to figure out (any more ideas for solving this would be great). Before applying AIO to the window, I noticed the windshield was unusually grabby to my MF towel. Even after the AIO, the new windshield was still very grabby. Nevertheless, when I do get SG, I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks



Anyone have any ideas for the second portion of my first post?
 
ZaneO said:
Cotton towels seem to work better than MF on glass (for me anyway).
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:2thumbs: I have found that too, didn't really think about it until your reply . Good observation as usual ZaneO.
 
I know that it is a new windshield, but if it felt grabby on your MF maybe try claying it? It can't hurt. The windshield might have picked up some particles while in storage.
 
xfire said:
I've not been satisfied with my glass cleaning as much as I thought. Basically, I get the glass looking nice with either PB S&W or Prima Glass cleaner. I pull the car out in the sun, and streaks are revealed when the sun hits the glass at a very SPECIFIC angle...any ideas how to remove or prevent this? Thanks everyone :2thumbs:
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A few things come to mind:



Try a different glass cleaner, you might find that you prefer something other than your old favorites. Try different toweling, I was absolutely *astounded* by how well my AutoGeek "Glass WWs" work and I have a scad of MFs and other materials made for cleaning glass. Try doing the final cleaning in the exact sunlight/viewing angle where you now find the streaks; for me it's easiest specific time of day when the sun is at the right angle. No matter how well I do the glass in the shop I know I have to pull into the sun just the right way to find those last streaks (which aren't nearly the issue that they were before getting those new WWs).
 
I tried Sonus Glass and Chrome Polish...no help. Clay bar...no help. All In One after that...no help. Collinite 476S...no help. One person recommended I take steel wool to the windshield...any thoughts?
 
AIO is good for glass?



In my quest for the zen of detailing, I've discovered some interesting stuff about glass cleaning I never thought of before. For instance, almost all glass cleaners are somewhat specific in the kinds of dirt, grease ect. they clean best and almost all cleaners leave behind a film.

I've yet to try AIO on glass and not sure I'd use it on my windshield (I'm a RainX fan), but lets say the problem is some stubborn film on the glass. I wonder if it's residual mold release or something?

I think I might use a couple of different glass cleaners (one might even be APC!) one after the other and then follow with a 50/50 white vinegar, water mix. Then apply the AIO.



In general, I'm finding that the best window cleaning is no cleaner at all! When I wash the car, I treat the exterior glass just like the paint and follow-up on the glass with an MF towel. On the interior glass, I often just use a damp, MF followed by a dry one - sometimes the damp MF may be just water, sometimes vinegar/water. Sometimes, I will resort to Stoners.



footnote: I'm not sure I'd put KSG on my windshield.
 
abbeysdad said:
AIO is good for glass?



In my quest for the zen of detailing, I've discovered some interesting stuff about glass cleaning I never thought of before. For instance, almost all glass cleaners are somewhat specific in the kinds of dirt, grease ect. they clean best and almost all cleaners leave behind a film.

I've yet to try AIO on glass and not sure I'd use it on my windshield (I'm a RainX fan), but lets say the problem is some stubborn film on the glass. I wonder if it's residual mold release or something?

I think I might use a couple of different glass cleaners (one might even be APC!) one after the other and then follow with a 50/50 white vinegar, water mix. Then apply the AIO.



In general, I'm finding that the best window cleaning is no cleaner at all! When I wash the car, I treat the exterior glass just like the paint and follow-up on the glass with an MF towel. On the interior glass, I often just use a damp, MF followed by a dry one - sometimes the damp MF may be just water, sometimes vinegar/water. Sometimes, I will resort to Stoners.



footnote: I'm not sure I'd put KSG on my windshield.
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i use stoners, and it still leaves streaks.

i guess you really have to keep up with the glass and not allow the interior to get too filmy, or else you have a PITA :doh
 
:think2 I use Essex GC-800, similar to CR-Lawrence's Sprayaway glass cleaner..



If 80 glass shops use them, I will too ;)



They evaporate quickly so there is never any streaking.



As well as it will clean nearly ANYTHING off the glass... Only thing it wont clean is water spots. Pretty good for $35/case of 12!
 
StumpyDetailing said:
:think2 I use Essex GC-800, similar to CR-Lawrence's Sprayaway glass cleaner..



If 80 glass shops use them, I will too ;)



They evaporate quickly so there is never any streaking
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this is available where :secret
 
abbeysdad said:
AIO is good for glass?



In general, I'm finding that the best window cleaning is no cleaner at all! When I wash the car, I treat the exterior glass just like the paint and follow-up on the glass with an MF towel. On the interior glass, I often just use a damp, MF followed by a dry one - sometimes the damp MF may be just water, sometimes vinegar/water. Sometimes, I will resort to Stoners.
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That's what I've found as well..If there's any grime or any protectant overspray, I'll go over first with a glass cleaner. But for a final wipe down or just cleaning interior glass film, a plain MF works best.
 
I have been thinking about glass lately as well. I first cleaned the windows with 50/50 vinegar and water, then I followed up with the detail spray I had on hand at the time. I was worried there was a problem, then I discovered my micro fiber towels (cheapos) were shedding and leaving lint on the windows.



After that, I cleaned them with Pledge furniture spray.



On plexiglass winshields for our airplanes, I have used pledge. It doesn't scratch, creates a slick surface and repels dust. I tried this on the car, but on the exterior it doesn't last in the rain. It washes off fairly quickly. On the inside though it does have the benefit of hidding fingerprints, important to with the little ones riding in the back.
 
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