AIO applicator / application question?

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imported_reeeko991

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I've used AIO and it seems to work very well, but my question is this.



When I apply a dime size amount to my MF pad and work it into the paint with back and forth motions, eventually the product becomes semihard? ( caked ) within the MF pad.



So do you continue using that same spot and apply your next amount for the next panel to the same spot on the pad or or do you use a fresh spot on the pad ?



It seems by the 4-5 section the product is beginning to cake up in the pad.

What am I doing wrong that is causing the caking?



I do use the Eagle One Quick detailer to prime the pad first between AIO application to the pad.





Thanks for all the help.
 
I would add the QD to the pad before every application of AIO on the pad. So that it becomes moist for every panel.
 
I've always heard to mist the pad lightly with water before starting. I think the QD may be too thick and causing the problem.
 
I mist a MF foam applicator pad with Eagle One Wet Wipe & Shine before I start and then about every 3-4 applications or so. Have never experienced the product caking up the pad. In fact, after I'm done, you wouldn't be able to tell if I used the MF pad for applying AIO or 303. Not sure what is causing the caking. AIO is probably the single easiest to use detailing product that I have. Wipe one, wipe off, move on to next area.



Regarding where I apply the AIO to the pad, pretty much wherever. After the applying to the first section, most of the applicator is wet.
 
drck1000 said:
I mist a MF foam applicator pad with Eagle One Wet Wipe & Shine before I start and then about every 3-4 applications or so. Have never experienced the product caking up the pad. In fact, after I'm done, you wouldn't be able to tell if I used the MF pad for applying AIO or 303. Not sure what is causing the caking. AIO is probably the single easiest to use detailing product that I have. Wipe one, wipe off, move on to next area.



Regarding where I apply the AIO to the pad, pretty much wherever. After the applying to the first section, most of the applicator is wet.
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I must be applying it wrong. I've been using the Eagle QD to moisten the MF applicator.

Maybe I do not use enough QD?



I've tried water as well.



maybe next time, I'll use it changing the placement of the AIO on the pad.

Not using the same spot. Maybe I'm not spreading it on corrctly either?



For me it is easily scene were I've been applying the AIO to the pad.



Thanks for the info guys...
 
reeeko99 said:
I must be applying it wrong. I've been using the Eagle QD to moisten the MF applicator.

Maybe I do not use enough QD?



I've tried water as well.



maybe next time, I'll use it changing the placement of the AIO on the pad.

Not using the same spot. Maybe I'm not spreading it on corrctly either?



For me it is easily scene were I've been applying the AIO to the pad.



Thanks for the info guys...
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I just give the applicator a couple of very light spritzes with the QD spray. Don't need to use too much, just a little.



I don't really pay attention to where on the pad that I apply the AIO or SG as long as it's on the same side that I used to apply to the previous panel In the end, the whole side of the pad is wet, but would look no different than if you dunked it in water and wrung it out.



When you mention that it's easily seen where you apply AIO to the pad, do you mean that it ends up looking wet or it ends up looking white like as if you were applying a paste wax?



I typically just apply a drop the size of a nickel (sometimes a quarter if I am not too careful as I apply) and just apply to the panel. As I reapply, it varies depending on the size of the panel that I will be applying to next. I usually start with the hood, where the nickel size is enough to do the entire section and then move on. I wipe off after each section and it comes right off. Would assume that you are applying to a clean and cool surface. Puzzling as I like AIO because it's so versatile and application is very easy.



Perhaps you just have a bad batch where something wasn't mixed in correctly. Happened to the touch-up paint for my car. Was missing the pigment and hardener. Just had metallic flake and a clear liquid that didn't dry. Maybe your AIO is all acrylic? Dunno.
 
Was there any other prep done to this vehicle? It might just be dirt; I've noticed that when MF applicators become dirty, they get stiff.
 
Hmm... a dime sized amount for every panel seems like a *lot* to me. My procedure:



1. First use: spritz pad with one of my qd's. Then apply a *very* thin ring on the outer edge of the pad. This is more product than you normally want to use per panel but this gets the pad primed with product.



2. Dab the panel with the pad several times.



3. With PC on 3, spread product around on panel evenly.



4. Jack PC up to 4-6 (depending on which product you're using) and do your business



5. On next panel, I put 4 *tiny* drops of product on the outer edge of the pad and repeat



So with AIO, for instance, I usually end up using between 0.25 - 0.50 oz, depending on the size of the car. I never get caking with this method. The only time I really get much caking and have to change pads is when I'm doing defect removal polishing.
 
Instead of a dime-sized amount of AIO, try making a thin line along the center of the pad. Making a line helps spread the AIO instead of concentrating it on the center of the pad which is my main suspect for the caking. As usual, prime it with a spritz of EO QD. SG line should be even thinner.
 
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