AIO and Zaino

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2clean4u

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A few weeks ago I read a review about how zaino looked over AIO. I would like to know if anyone tried this combo and how is it holding up?
 
Scott, how strong is AIO. I just started using it. If you need paint corection how far will it go. Is AIO only good on a properly preped surface or will it take out swirl, oxidation ect.



Thanks,

Clint
 
just a quick note about aio, my side mirrors on the car are plastic, and not clearcoated. They keep fading every few weeks, and look oxidized. I tried applying AIO on them, and they looked the same. So i got out poorboys swirl remover #2 and polished them by hand. THat woke em up and i topped em with EX-P. we'll see how long they last this time.
 
Clinton said:
Scott, how strong is AIO. I just started using it. If you need paint corection how far will it go. Is AIO only good on a properly preped surface or will it take out swirl, oxidation ect.



Thanks,

Clint
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I'm not Scott, but I have been using AIO for a couple of years now. AIO is a pure chemical cleaner. No good for any type of paint correction. No abrasives of any sort. It's only good for general paint cleaning and oxidation. It's a pretty good cleaner. If you need paint correction (swirls or scratches) you need an abrasive. Take your pick from Sonus, SSR, Meguiar's Menzerna and what have you.
 
But he was asking about oxidation so yeah it does help paint corrections. It will also help minor swirls in some situations. Some swirls if cleaned can become almost impossible to see. However, most swirls do need polish. Bottom line is try AIO first, you can always go back and get more aggresive later. Every body who details cars should have a bottle of that stuff anyhow.
 
I've still got AIO and ColorX as a base for Zaino on half and half of my hood.Still holding up since applying on Sep. 2nd and can't tell the difference between the 2 as a base at this point.:up
 
I've had AIO and Z2 on my car since Columbus day weekend. Still holdiing strong. :xyxthumbs

Agreed with the others. It's a good cleaner, but if you have some swirls, you'll have to address them. I used #9 in a few spots, then went AIO and Z2.
 
2wheelsx2 said:
AIO is a pure chemical cleaner. No good for any type of paint correction. No abrasives of any sort. It's only good for general paint cleaning and oxidation. It's a pretty good cleaner. If you need paint correction (swirls or scratches) you need an abrasive. Take your pick from Sonus, SSR, Meguiar's Menzerna and what have you.
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I don't know about this. I know it says on the bottle that AIO is non abrasive but that has not been my experience with it. I have removed minor marring with AIO by hand and PC. It also does a nice job on compounding haze. Does it do this chemicaly or abrasively? Either way it has some cut to it. There are others on Autopia that have had the same results.
 
stevet said:
I don't know about this. I know it says on the bottle that AIO is non abrasive but that has not been my experience with it. I have removed minor marring with AIO by hand and PC. It also does a nice job on compounding haze. Does it do this chemicaly or abrasively? Either way it has some cut to it. There are others on Autopia that have had the same results.
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I agree about AIO removing the compounding haze. Though I have not seen it touch anything beyond this. It is mainly meant to be used as a chemical paint cleaner.



As for AIO under Z, I use this combo with good results. Though it is recommended to do a Z7 wash after AIO'ing. AIO does have some qualities that will inhibit optimal bonding of Z.
 
I, too, agree that AIO will remove light swirls/marring. I have witnessed it several times...most recently this past week.



Think about it this way; if it was a chemical only cleaner, it would have to very strong in order to chew through oxidation and light swirling like it does. It would be so strong that you would probably be required to wear gloves (at minimum) to apply it.



I know some will disagree, but that is my opinion.
 
In term of AIO and its perceived very, very, very minor surface correction is most likely due to the chemical cleansing of AIO and the abrasive characteristics of the applicator used. From my experience a polishing pad and AIO does have some corrective activity. By hand and using a folded cotton towel (rag) the same results can be duplicated. AIO with a finishing pad and PC has little if no corrective activity from my experiences.



A surface that has had AIO applied prior to a Zaino polish application can be "cleared" with just a Z6 wipedown. I have found no need to Z7 wash to achieve excellent bonding. If I do a complete prep with abrasive polishes, I do Z7 wash "prior to AIO application to remove any grit and inspect my work.

With that said either method (Z7 wash or Z6 wipe down) will work. :wavey
 
I've played with AIO for a long time. It's definately abrasive (mild), and thats not a bad thing, because I think we all found a good use for it.



Don't make get out my propeller test photos to prove it! HA!
 
DETAILKING said:
I've played with AIO for a long time. It's definately abrasive (mild), and thats not a bad thing, because I think we all found a good use for it.



Don't make get out my propeller test photos to prove it! HA!
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I remember reading that thread about the propeller test. Could the paint transfer on to the applicator be caused from chemical cleaning not abrasives?



When I use non abrasive chemical cleaners and cleaner waxes on single stage paint I get paint paint transfer on my apps.
 
stevet said:
I remember reading that thread about the propeller test. Could the paint transfer on to the applicator be caused from chemical cleaning not abrasives?



When I use non abrasive chemical cleaners and cleaner waxes on single stage paint I get paint paint transfer on my apps.
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I think you would be surprised to see how many chemical cleaners and cleaner waxes actually have abrasives in them.
 
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