Aggghhh, brown tires keep coming back!

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dexter

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Ok, I take my wheels off the car last weekend to give them a good inside cleaning and waxing and I also clean the tires really well with diluted Eagle AIO wheel/tire cleaner. I then applied 303 to each tire with the EO tires swipe and they looked awesome with a nice satin finish. It rained yesterday and the damn tires turned brown again after the rain! I washed the car this evening and cleaned the tires again with the AIO and the browning is worse. This browning has been on on going occurence with these tires (Pirelli P7000's). If some of you could please point me in the right direction in what I could be doing wrong here, it would be greatly appreciated. :bow
 
I read about this somewhere.



The brown is a chemical added to prevent the sun from damaging the rubber. Some tires have more than others. It <usually> only appears when the tires are hot. If it is as bad as you say (and I believe it is), I would take the tires back to the vendor and complain. Who wants brown tires??
 
I'm not familiar with Eagle AIO wheel/tire cleaner, so I can't comment on that. I use EF HI Cleaner full strength with the Oxo tire brush. I usually give my tires a good scrubbing every other wash. I've been using Eagle One Wet Tire Shine as a dressing.

What I've noticed is that if I don't really get in there with the scrub brush and clean out the tire, I will get some browning a few days later (depending on conditions) and/or my dressing won't hold too long.

Maybe by diluting the Eagle AIO cleaner, you're not really "deep" cleaning the tires. Possibly just cleaning the old tire dressing off. So when you apply your 303, it doesn't "soak" in. Maybe try cleaning the tires, rinse them, clean again and rinse. I do that from time to time if my tires are in rough condition. Just a thought.
 
Its gotta be your tires. I use the same thing AIO & 303 or Meguiars on Micheline & Cooper tires and have no browning.
 
I had the same problem and finally tried some Meg's Hot Shine for tires and it cleared it up for about 2-3 weeks at a time. I had used Zaino's tire dressing and 303 and they didn't help the brown problem for more than a day or two.
 
is it Eagle One AIO? I thought it was A2Z.... maybe we are talking about a different product.



Either way, most tire/wheel cleaners say to "spray on, hose off". I usually find that I have to do some scrubbing. Use a nice tire brush. OXO makes some... or you can find some cheap ones that will work well at a Walmart or other super store. Spray the cleaner, scrub with that, rinse off. I think this might be your problem. When followed by 303, your browning problem should greatly diminish.
 
I have found that after a good cleaning with just about any tire cleaner (my favorite being EO A2Z - only when real dirty), is that if you want the browning to at least disappear for a long time is to apply Meg's endurance gel. After about the third application on my old tires, I greatly noticed a huge reduction in browning and the time lapse in which I would see it again. I'm now going through the same thing again with my new tires, so I will be attempting that plan again and see if it works.:up
 
It is called "blooming", do a search here and on Google for more than you want to know :)



Using harsh cleaners on your tires will only aggrevate blooming because you are stripping away the protective chemicals that will just come to the surface again the next time you get the sidewall warm. I would stick to plain old car wash soap and a brush to clean your tires.



Just my 2 cents :)
 
Could it be that the tyres are oxidised, Old stock maybe? You have to be careful with wheel cleaners. Those oxalic acid ones I despise, I don't know about what EO has in it. For quite some time I have been using a couple of professional wash and wax shampoo's on the wheels and tires of my car and that helps to keep the wax level topped up, making the alloys really gleamy but It also prevents browning. I follow with non silicone tyre rejuvinators but of course if it rains, they won't last long but the tyres still won't go brown. If the problem continues, talk to the shop that sold you the tires



I'm looking forward to getting Dinitrol tyre rejuvinator which repairs oxidised tires.

That really sucks, brown tires are so grose
 
There is nothing wrong with "blooming", the tires are designed to do it. It is not a defect. Blooming really only looks bad when you use harsh cleaners because it causes an excessive amount of the waxes to come to the surface the next time the sidewalls are heated up. If you stick to mild cleaners it will help keep it down to a minimum.
 
It does vary by tire brand, but " blooming" also occurs most in newer tires, and will get less and less as time goes on. Another factor that exacerbates it (aside from harsh cleaners that remove the outer layer and promote more to come out during flexing) is humidity/moisture. It's also referred to by people int he tire biz as "micro wax". It works in tandem with competitive absorbers (carbon black) to stave off ozone and UV, respectively.



As stated by rjstaaf, It is normal, and it's better to use a mild car wash shampoo on your tires than to strip the outer layer and create pronounced blooming from occurring.



Ideally, you want to keep those antiozonants in there as much as you can, and not deplete them prematurely. Cheers. :)
 
GTI2001 - - -



There is a product called Forever Black which has given me excellent results on old bronzed tires.



I haven’t used their tire gel, but I did put their Bumper & Trim Reconditioner (the label says it is good for use on rubber) on the tires of my old Suburban (The Miata Masher) about six months before I sold the truck. They stayed a nice black and only needed normal tire care.



Have fun and enjoy your GTI!
 
Some tires seem to be more prone to this browning effect than others, so it may depend on brand, model, environment, etc.
 
I have same problem...brown tires, no matter how I clean or what I do. Been cleaning with mothers and spray Meg. Hot Shine and it has been helping some. But the brown really make the vehicle look yukky!
 
Im not sure but if it's true about the brown coming out when the tires get hot. Then it's probly safe to say If you live in a hot climate area and you have tire shine on your wheels. The shine got to magnify the sunlight to heat the tires up even more than normal Causing more browning.
 
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