Accumulator
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Heh heh, wonder how those odds work out for "purely random success". Caught my eye as Souveran (on silver no less) is one LSP my wife can spot immediately for some reason.
Advice on filling swirls, will this process work?
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Heh heh, wonder how those odds work out for "purely random success". Caught my eye as Souveran (on silver no less) is one LSP my wife can spot immediately for some reason.
Poorboy
Founder Poorboy's World
I believe the car they were compared on was a Red Lexus :inspector:
MackCollier
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Good cause I`ve got a bottle of the Liquid Red arriving on Thurs. B)
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Looks better 12-24 hrs after application.
So look at it after, put it away for night, go buy new sunglasses, pull car out in sun next morning, don`t forget to wear sunglasses.
MackCollier
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I ordered Liquid Natty`s Red and Meguiars #26. I suspect the #26 will darken the color a bit, and it seems Red will make the flakes stand out a bit more. Will have to do a comparison and see which look I like better.
Accumulator
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MackCollier- Hey, that *will* be an interesting comparison! Wonder if the M26 will mute the flake any..
Old Pirate
AMG Classic Car Detailing
To the OP, how bout a little investment on a PC machine? So those nasty swirls that everyone is talking bout will be a thing of the past and you can layer any LSP product you want and get that shine your looking for. Just my 2 cents........
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h34r:MackCollier
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To the OP, how bout a little investment on a PC machine? So those nasty swirls that everyone is talking bout will be a thing of the past and you can layer any LSP product you want and get that shine your looking for. Just my 2 cents........
I actually have an older Porter Cable just no pads for it, might be time to invest in some.
nickclark08
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Even if if you have no desire to correct the swirls and such, the PC will help you get the most benefit from Black Hole being worked into the paint (with finishing pad). EXP as well.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Do BH by machine, then whatever you cover it with by hand...........
nickclark08
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Ah, good point Ron. I can see how that would be beneficial
MackCollier, follow what Ron said
MackCollier, follow what Ron said
Accumulator
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No point in correcting marring until the wash/etc. regimen is sorted to where it won`t need done again for ages (and I don`t mean just a year).
MackCollier
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I got the SSR1 and Natty`s Red in today. Applied the SSR1 by hand and saw no improvement in the swirls. I did notice the surface of the paint was a bit smoother. I then applied the Black Hole by hand with EX-P sealant over it, and buffed both off, and no improvement to the swirls either. I guess I`m just not doing a good enough job working the product into the paint by hand.
So I`m assuming I just need to forget trying to do it by hand and need to get some pads to do the job with my Porter Cable.
Looking at the selection of Lake Country pads - Lake Country CCS Dual Action 5.5 Inch Foam Pads
Would these pads work to apply each?
SSR1 - White or Orange, which would be better?
Black Hole - Blue or Gold?
EX-P - Red
Natty`s Red or Souveran by hand.
So I`m assuming I just need to forget trying to do it by hand and need to get some pads to do the job with my Porter Cable.
Looking at the selection of Lake Country pads - Lake Country CCS Dual Action 5.5 Inch Foam Pads
Would these pads work to apply each?
SSR1 - White or Orange, which would be better?
Black Hole - Blue or Gold?
EX-P - Red
Natty`s Red or Souveran by hand.
MackCollier
New member
Also I preferred the look of the Natty`s Red over #26. The Red seemed glossier, and I loved how thin it was, didn`t take much, it should last a long time.
JustJesus
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I`m wondering if Rasky was right; maybe the swirls are too deep to make any real difference with filling. Any chance you can post a pic?
I very recently tried to cover up some swirls, light scratches myself. Two test spots. One was White Diamond (BH, but white) and the other was a light polish with Pro Polish on a black pad, followed by White Diamond. Both looked better than what I started with. The PP + WD side was better than the WD side. BUT, both still had too much for my liking. The PP/WD side just *might* be enough for this particular veh, but I want to see it in some good sun. We`ve been having overcast and rain lately
I very recently tried to cover up some swirls, light scratches myself. Two test spots. One was White Diamond (BH, but white) and the other was a light polish with Pro Polish on a black pad, followed by White Diamond. Both looked better than what I started with. The PP + WD side was better than the WD side. BUT, both still had too much for my liking. The PP/WD side just *might* be enough for this particular veh, but I want to see it in some good sun. We`ve been having overcast and rain lately
Poorboy
Founder Poorboy's World
The SSR1 is more of a finishing polish and I would not expect swirl removal with it especially by hand .. smoother is better and probably removing the previous products.
I`m assuming this was done in two steps? Did you work the Black Hole in or did you wipe it on and off like a wax?
the machine will definitely help with the SSR1 I would use Black pad same for the Black Hole , EX-P with Red and apply the Natty`s by hand
MackCollier
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I`m wondering if Rasky was right; maybe the swirls are too deep to make any real difference with filling. Any chance you can post a pic?
I very recently tried to cover up some swirls, light scratches myself. Two test spots. One was White Diamond (BH, but white) and the other was a light polish with Pro Polish on a black pad, followed by White Diamond. Both looked better than what I started with. The PP + WD side was better than the WD side. BUT, both still had too much for my liking. The PP/WD side just *might* be enough for this particular veh, but I want to see it in some good sun. We`ve been having overcast and rain lately
This is the only pic I took that shows any of the swirls, it was tough to get a good shot of them. There are others all over the hood but these were about the worst.
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MackCollier
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Black? Do you mean gray? According to the Autopia store description, the gray pad has no cut. And you claim Super Swirl Remover isn`t really for removing swirls, so how would that combination...remove the swirls? I`m new to this so that`s why I ask.
At this point it almost feels like throwing good money after bad, if I buy anything else I want to make sure it actually removes the swirls, or at least fills them.
Poorboy
Founder Poorboy's World
Not sure of the Autopia color but yes , the SSR1 is made to finish up after using 2.5 or SSR3 ... the system is meant to start with an aggressive to knock down the swirls and finish off with either SSR2 or SSR1 ... SSR1 would become a maintenance from swirls induced by weekly washings. Your original intent was to hide the swirls but with the use of the twins you had literally sealed the swirls in .. the SSR1 will clean and remove the previous product, cleaning the slate. IF you want to do repairs, then yes you will need a light cut pad with a stronger cut than SSR1 ...
Getting pads is never a bad idea, but maybe you can get you a sample of 2.5 and at least practice on one panel to get it right and then proceed to do the rest of the vehicle.
nickclark08
New member
Side note- I know the store says "gray", but the pads are most definitely black. Confirmed this myself with a pad order a few days ago.
Summary: Gray=Black=finishing pad. Same thing.
Hope this helps to clear it up
Summary: Gray=Black=finishing pad. Same thing.
Hope this helps to clear it up