Adam's vs Griot's

[Bunky]

Well stated... I don't ever pretend that Adams has the BEST answer for every product category. Its unrealistic to expect any one brand to do everything well... as a "detail advisor" on the adams forums and an independent detailer in my spare time even I have products from other companies to fill needs that the Adams line doesn't meet. I've got stuff from Optimum, Mezerna, Migliore, Pinnacle, CG, etc in my collection of products and there are certain cases where Adams is the best option, there are others when its not. To blindly be loyal to one product line or brand is just plain lazy. I'd be lying if I didn't state I use Adams in 90% of the cases, but there are times where I need something more aggressive, or something for a particular surface, its just the simple facts of detailing... there is no 'magic bullet' for every condition on every car.



Very true... no better way to figure out if its the right stuff for you than getting your hands on it and trying it out. I have yet to meet anyone whos attended an Adams clinic and walked away not liking at least a couple of the products.

Some candid and honest comments...

 

[Accumulator]

Well stated... I don't ever pretend that Adams has the BEST answer for every product category. Its unrealistic to expect any one brand to do everything well... there are certain cases where Adams is the best option, there are others when its not. To blindly be loyal to one product line or brand is just plain lazy.... there is no 'magic bullet' for every condition on every car. ..

Some candid and honest comments...

Hear, hear! :clap:



Not everyday that a manufacturer's rep posts something like that.

 

[Accumulator]

You know speedshine isn't that bad of a deal considering how Griot's stuff is usually overpriced, but you get 35 oz for $9.99, that is, assuming SpeedShine is any good (I have not tried it)

If your LSP is a wax as opposed to a sealant, I think you'd like the SpeedShine. I do prefer other QDs on synthetic LSPs though. And the SpeedShine isn't my choice for use as a clay lube either.

 

[Adam's Polishes]

In your opinion, in which cases are Adams products the best option? I've never used any of your products (I actually have a gift certificate to redeem currently) and would like to know which of your products are better than its competitors.



Also (on a side note), if you don't feel some of your products are the best, are you planning on creating new ones to become more competitive and/or recognized for offering a better line?

Detail Spray... I have yet to meet someone who tries the Adams Detail Spray and doesn't love it.



Glass cleaner is one of the best I've ever used.



Machine Superwax... technically a sealant. One of the more durable products I've ever used. Stands up to the abuse my wife puts on her car so the stuff has to be tough



Americana Paste easily outperforms any wax I've used for the price... it easily outperforms some waxes at twice the price.



Undercarriage spray is awesome, though I hear some people prefer CG bare bones... haven't tried it so I can't compare the two honestly.



VRT... by far my favorite dressing, very versatile, never disappoints.



I could go on and on....



As for not being the best in any one category... well you can pretty much say that of any companies products. Adams is continually testing and reformulating products based on customer feedback. I could give TONS of examples just in recent months where minor tweaks have been made to everything from packaging to ingredients based solely on customer feedback.



The thing to keep in mind is that just b/c a specific product isn't "THE BEST" doesn't make it not good. I typically define BEST as something that outperforms all others regardless of cost (a Buggatti is THE BEST CAR, but a Vette is THE BEST CAR FOR THE MONEY). I'm sure a tub of crystal rock will dance circles around Americana, but when you bring cost into the equation its a different story. I firmly believe Adams offers excellent value for your money... all of their products are competitive in their respective niche and are backed with THE ABSOLUTE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE in the business. We're still the only company that will pay you 110% of the purchase if you're not satisfied with a product... that right there is worth its weight in gold IMHO.



On the flipside I've always thought Optimum made great products... until I tried their car wash concentrate. After watching it discolor the rubber trim on my car I tossed the gallon in the trash and went back to my pH neutral Adams Car Shampoo. Does that take anything away from ONR or Optiseal? Nope... just means Optimum missed the target with their soap.



Perfect example... today I had to attack a nasty scratch running the length of my wifes SUV. Adams Swirl and Haze remover is an EXCELLENT medium grade polish, but this job called for something much more aggressive. It'd be silly of me to recommend SHR as THE BEST polish for the situation when it isn't. So for this particluar scratch I busted out a more aggressive product from a competitor and knocked the scratch down, I followed it up with Adams Fine Machine Polish on a white pad for finishing and topped with a coat of Adams Machine Superwax on the gray pad.



I guess what I'm getting at with my rambling post here is BEST is a combination of a lot of things... most of all BEST isn't true for all situations or budgets.

Hear, hear! :clap:



Not everyday that a manufacturer's rep posts something like that.

Hey... if we're being honest here its all about caring for your prized possession or a passion for the hobby of detailing. None of us are into this because we like the shoulder workout :LOLOL



I prefer to be honest and upfront so you know exactly what you're getting in each and every post I make... I stand behind the Adams line b/c as a whole I believe its the best for the money and has a team of people standing behind it that are passionate about the products and making the customer happy. :2thumbs:

 

[BigAl3]

Glass cleaner is one of the best I've ever used.

it should be available to where you can dilute it and give customers more bang for the buck. the megs D-line glass cleaner concentrate is half the price and makes 11 gallons of cleaner...

 

[Adam's Polishes]

it should be available to where you can dilute it and give customers more bang for the buck. the megs D-line glass cleaner concentrate is half the price and makes 11 gallons of cleaner...

I agree you get a lot for your $ with the D120, I've used it, but I don't think it performs as well as the our glass cleaner. So I guess that comes down to a discussion of value vs. cost.



To be honest guys, I'm not here to play "Compare this to that" if you're satisfied with what you're using who am I to tell you to try anything different.

 

[BigAl3]

I agree you get a lot for your $ with the D120, I've used it, but I don't think it performs as well as the our glass cleaner. So I guess that comes down to a discussion of value vs. cost.

interesting... the megs d-line and nxt glass cleaner are some of the best i've ever tried and with the cost effecient savings, it's a no brainer...

To be honest guys, I'm not here to play "Compare this to that" if you're satisfied with what you're using who am I to tell you to try anything different.

that's good and one can appreciate that. it's just that most (not all) adams products are over-priced IMO and the few that i've tried can be bought elsewhere for less with just as good results...



in anycase... good luck with adam's!

 

[TGates]

Ah, that's quite a compliment, coming from you! Is it as idiot-proof as SpeedShine?

Absolutely. I'd say it's even more idiot-proof, in fact. I t works in the hot and cold, works great when the car is still wet, works great on glass, wicks off quickly, has great cleaning power, leaves a nice shine, and works great as a clay lube. I don't think you'd be disappointed.

 

[Accumulator]

BlackSunshine- Well, OK then. I'm absolutely willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QDs