Acrylic Sealer = Future Floor Wax

Quote:and for drying out...how does plastic dry out? is it a liquid?



To maintain its flexibility manufacturers add a plasticizer, once they dry out it causes the plastic/vinyl to crack.



But there again if you are satified that a floor sealant gives your vehicle the look and protection you like...



IMO It's just not something I would recommend, especially for people 'new' to detailing



JonM
 
Ive seen Future floor wax used as a vinyl top dressing, dash dressing, tire dressing, wheel well dressing, black bumper dressing, engine dressing , black side moulding dressing , but it wont work very good on paint. Try it youl see.
 
I've not tried an acrylic floor wax on a car, but I've often suspected they are really the same things. Hard to compare the chemical contents of them as you cannot obtain an MSDS for many (most? all?) of the automotive acrylic waxes. So when it comes to things like Klasse or Zaino's, no one really knows what's in it.



Like many, I've had a lousy time getting the finish smooth when doing a floor. *BUT*... when I'm doing a floor I'm using a big mop, and glopping the wax down over a very large area, that generally isn't terribly clean. A far different approach from what I use on a car. On those times I disciplined myself enough to follow the directions when waxing the floor, I did get a nice smooth shiny finish.
 
Intel486 said:
Just have to make sure that it doesn't have any chemicals in it that'll harm the paint on the vehicles. If you can show me it doesn't, then I'd probably try it on my truck.
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One of it's contents is Dimethyl silicone-



Aromatic hydrocarbons- are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products, they have a pleasant odour and include such substances as naphthalene, xylene, toluene, and benzene. Most aromatic hydrocarbons are long-term toxins and known cancer causing agents, they are strong solvents and are used as a base for many useful compounds (i.e. engine degreaser, tar removers, etc) anywhere a strong solvent is required



Dimethyl is derived from Aromatic hydrocarbon (petroleum) distillates, which are environmentally unsound and give a slick, oily finish, which attracts dust and dirt and amplifies sunlight causing vinyl and most plastics to dry out and crack. It also causes rubber compounds along with sun iteration to remove the micro-wax in tyres as well as its carbon black (it's what gives tyres their colour) they are often mislabeled as modem /synthetic polymers by manufactures.



IMO not something I would choose for my car care product



JonM
 
Oh please. :rolleyes:

Aromatic hydrocarbons are in grilled meats and lots of other things you enjoy and eat on a daily basis. They do not inherently have a pleasant odor, many of them flat stink. Their toxicity varies tremendously and they frequently are not the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products.
 
Some components might be the same, and although they both provide protection, they were designed for different surfaces. That floor wax and car sealant might have common active ingredients doesn't necessarily mean they're interchangeable; its concentration can vary, and other products added to it can affect what it does. An example is soaps and detergents.. Dishwashing liquid, car soap, and face soap might share similar basic detergents, but you wouldn't want to interchange them. One or two cross-applications might not hurt, but each product is optimized for repeated, long-term use with the task they were designed for.
 
TOGWT said:
Aromatic hydrocarbons- are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products,
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That's too generic of a statement. Most drugs and medicines are aromatic hydrocarbons. A lot are over the counter, such as anesthetics (phenol). Mineral oil can be taken internally and it's a petroleum product, and then there's vaseline, baby oil (fragranced mineral oil)..
 
Remember I am using this stuff.....on plastic cladding...that has a tendency to leach out the mold release agents...and turn white and crappy.....



So far it working well.... has not dripped onto paint below...



only thing wrong is I applied two layers in some areas not waiting the 8 hours like bottle said...so it looks kinda weird in those areas....but I learned now...



interesting product this stuff FUTURE is...



and how do you know what is in it anyways? curious...as I could not find squat.....
 
Originally posted by TOGWT

Aromatic hydrocarbons- are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products,

Oh please.

Aromatic hydrocarbons are in grilled meats and lots of other things you enjoy and eat on a daily basis. They do not inherently have a pleasant odor, many of them flat stink. Their toxicity varies tremendously and they frequently are not the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products.

That's too generic of a statement. Most drugs and medicines are aromatic hydrocarbons. A lot are over the counter, such as anesthetics (phenol). Mineral oil can be taken internally and it's a petroleum product, and then there's vaseline, baby oil (fragranced mineral oil)..



a) Aromatic hydrocarbons-

Are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products, they have a pleasant odour and include such substances as naphthalene, xylene, toluene, and benzene. Most aromatic hydrocarbons are long-term toxins and known cancer causing agents, they are strong solvents and are used as a base for many useful compounds (i.e. engine degreaser, tar removers, etc) anywhere a strong solvent is required

a) Aliphatic hydrocarbons-

Include methane, propane, and kerosene. Aliphatic hydrocarbons are flammable and may be explosively flammable.

b) Naphthenic hydrocarbons-

After further distillation aliphatic produce Naphthenic hydrocarbonâ€â„¢s, these are used to produce light oils and as a base for light solvents adhesives and paint additives. Further purification produces Cyclo Paraffin and it is used in many pharmaceutical and skin beauty products. Cyclo Paraffin compounds are also used in car care waxes and polishes, used as a carrier system as they easily dissolve wax and provide spread ability and a lubricant for waxes, machine polishes and glazes.

c) Cyclo Paraffin hydrocarbon-

Are used in many car care products and perform many different and important functions. They are also used in many cleaning products as solvents to quickly emulsify oils, grease road tar and grime. They will not harm plastics, vinyl or rubber nor will they remove any important components like flex agents, plasticizers and etc, while it helps to clean and replace necessary oils to their surface.



Information source: EPA /Purdue University Study, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency website and etc



JonM
 
My point was that petroleum products can be refined into safe products. I'm confused about why you posted so much info about aliphatic chains, parrifin, and aromatics when dimethyl-silicone is neither aromatic nor aliphatic. Are you certain that it is even derived from petroleum?



dimethyl-silicone is relatively safe. you can even buy them in toy stores (silly putty).
 
Guess My Name said:


and how do you know what is in it anyways? curious...as I could not find squat.....
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curious for this answer ..... as I can find nothing as to ingredients in FUTURE...anywhere.....
 
I was @ Tesco today, and their floor polish (formulated for vinyl floors) grabbed my attention.



The ingredients:



Montan wax 5-10 %

Acrylic copolymers 5-10 %

Non-ionic surfactants < 1 %

Preservative

Fragrance

Water



What can be wrong with it?
 
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