Accumulator Made Me Do It

[JustJesus]

Wonder who *does* own FK these days..

Last I read, and unless I`m confusing companies, after Floyd`s passing the company was sold to a close friend/competitor of Floyd.

 

[Accumulator]

..after Floyd`s passing the company was sold to a close friend/competitor of Floyd.

Heh heh, I somehow doubt that anybody could be both his friend and competitor, but you never know IF Ketch sees this thread maybe he`ll fill me in.

I find it interesting, and surprising, that you`ve had uniformly positive experiences with my recommendations! Glad to hear it though, and also glad to hear you`ll be working with the Malm`s more. I`ll always have a softspot for that stuff even if I never use it again...

 

[acuRAS82]

Ron gets people hooked on PA High Gloss.

Accumulator on FK1000p.

How similar, yet how incredibly different. olishAngel:

 

[Surly]

OK, in all seriousness since I`m on a short spell of vacation I was going to seek out one of my earlier threads from around a year ago and post some feedback on FK but I might as well do it here (too?)

I currently have a 2011 BMW in A52 Space Grey Metallic. Previously I`ve had darker colours - BMW 363 Biarritz Blue Metallic, BMW A22 Sparkling Graphite, Porsche 22D Slate Grey Metallic. Around 10-15 years ago I was fairly up to date with what was going on with detailing but along came kids, community responsibilities and other good/bad life experiences and, essentially, I was still using P21S Concours as my LSP and was just as out of date on most of my other products. This was the first car I`ve had since it was in pretty much new condition (Usually I`ve always had something where I was frequently saying "I wish the original owner hadn`t done this") and even though I keep things looking good I wanted to do better.

I believe it was early last fall I finally applied a double coat (one week apart) of FK after a bit of a polish (Menzerna SF4000 on a PC) to remove a dealer applied "lifetime" sealant and increase gloss. Better beading, better slickness (P21S was pretty good in that department). It brings out good depth in A52, though I also polished so I`m not claiming it`s just the FK. With that one double application it made it all the way through winter with some decent beading until two weeks ago. It seemed as if fallout and contamination didn`t stick like it did to P21S (over top of the "lifetime").

I was in a rush to reapply before vacation season (parking outside and under trees). I did a quick double wash, nano skin, dry and applied one coat of FK. The nanoskin wasn`t doing a lot of work compared to previous spring touch up sessions. After drying the finish was smooth, but grabby and not slick at all. Applying the FK it was immediately apparent by slickness through the applicator where I had re-covered and where I had not. It was to the point of squeaking (made me cringe) on first pass in some places. Maybe an Eraser wipe down would have helped? I applied using the "1/4 turn" dosing method I`ve heard Accumulator mention, but probably reloaded the applicator more often than he would.

I applied to the entire care, then buffed off with a high quality MF (I think the local vendor called it "The Cookie Monster" at the time I ordered it a few years ago) and it was super easy. Back to being slick, smooth and super beading. I`ll probably do another coat in another week and call it "done". Not sure I`ll be doing any kind of correction or restoration to the paint this year with the results I`ve seen. I have a few things on the interior I`ll spend my detailing cycles obsessing over...

 

[JustJesus]

Heh heh, I somehow doubt that anybody could be both his friend and competitor, but you never know IF Ketch sees this thread maybe he`ll fill me in.

I find it interesting, and surprising, that you`ve had uniformly positive experiences with my recommendations! Glad to hear it though, and also glad to hear you`ll be working with the Malm`s more. I`ll always have a softspot for that stuff even if I never use it again...

It`s why I don`t hesitate to get something you recommend! I believe the only differing experiences we`ve had are with Griot`s 3" RO. But you have an older version, so that may be the main difference. (I`ll see if I can get some "work" done with the GG3 later tonight and post results later this week)

I`m not sure why, but Malm`s is calling out to me! I did notice water sheets off well with it.

 

[rlmccarty2000]

Thanks for the tip on the FK pink wax. I always wondered what it was for.

 

[Accumulator]

Surly- Glad the FK continues to please you! Heh heh, yeah..I bet most everybody uses more than I do, but it`s pretty forgiving even with goofy-thick applications. Not surprised that the Nanoskin didn`t pick up much, after going *years* without decontaminating the Tahoe, when I finally did clay it there was hardly anything there, really wouldn`t have been necessary as stuff just doesn`t stick to/penetrate the FK for me.

JustJesus- That Malm`s is one of the most overlooked good waxes I can think of. I can only recall two or three Autopians who`ve ever even tried it. It was the first LSP I used on trim, way back in the `80s.

rlmccarty2000- Heh heh, given my general disdain for topping products, I almost have mixed feelings about cluing you in But seriously, I bet it`d work out great for people who, uhm...wouldn`t be caught dead driving a car with inadequate Depth and Jetting (yeah..just a pinch of sarcasm there, couldn`t resist ).

 

[FryeBaby]

Surly, I noticed you said your car wasn`t slick and I noticed in your steps you didn`t mention claying it. Through my learning experience I have found claying after washing when you are doing a complete outside detail of your car makes all the difference in slickness. When I found about claying and I did it for the first time and then put the Klasse twins over it I couldn`t believe if felt like glass. It was like a light bulb went off in my head. Klasse never felt so slick without the claying. It is also good for your paint pulling out the bad stuff. If you clayed your car and I missed it in your post, then I apologize. Claying is one thing to me that is very important and I realized it wasn`t a gimmick the first time I tried it. I am going to be ordering FK1000p because of Accumulator and trying it out instead of the Klasse twins. Mr. Accumulator you may put another notch on your gun. LOL.

 

[manicrodder]

I have been here along time. I don`t post often but I now have a tin because of Accumulator and glad for it. Because of Accumulator being passionate about the product and a suave member how could I resist! The Frontier`s paint shows well indeed.

 

[Accumulator]

.. I am going to be ordering FK1000p because of Accumulator and trying it out instead of the Klasse twins. Mr. Accumulator you may put another notch on your gun. LOL.

Well, maybe I oughta wait until you see how you like it! Wonder if you`ll still find the claying necessary once you`ve switched to that for your LSP...that`s the only variable I can think of to explain why I no longer have to do it very often.

manirodder- Glad it`s working out well for you! Heh heh, for some reason your username had me wondering whether it`d give you the look you prefer..maybe the "rodder" part says "carnauba wax" to my subconscious or something Too much time spent perusing the Rodder`s Journal

 

[JustJesus]

... Not surprised that the Nanoskin didn`t pick up much, after going *years* without decontaminating the Tahoe, when I finally did clay it there was hardly anything there, really wouldn`t have been necessary as stuff just doesn`t stick to/penetrate the FK for me.

JustJesus- That Malm`s is one of the most overlooked good waxes I can think of. I can only recall two or three Autopians who`ve ever even tried it. It was the first LSP I used on trim, way back in the `80s.

On the wife`s Kia, I went roughly 6-8 months before I decided to clay it. It was wearing FK at the time. With Accumulator`s posts about Sonus Clay, I bought some and tried it out. Sure enough, what little contamination was on the Kia, the Sonus [ultra fine] clay removed it without disturbing the underlying FK. A very gentle clay, and very gentle technique, along with lots of clay lube....that did the trick.

So Malm`s is trim safe, eh? Good to know. Wow. Not very many Autopians on that list!

 

[Accumulator]

On the wife`s Kia, I went roughly 6-8 months before I decided to clay it. It was wearing FK ..[and]..what little contamination was on the Kia, the Sonus [ultra fine] clay removed it without disturbing the underlying FK...

You must`ve indeed used a very good, gentle, technique!

So Malm`s is trim safe, eh? Good to know. Wow. Not very many Autopians on that list!

First tried it on trim after the Jag`s EVR Trim Dressing ran in the rain (parked outside when it was my daily), worked great. Kept doing it with Souveran, then with 845/KSG/etc. I`d be careful though, I`d wipe-on-wipe-off, and if you use too much it could stain, and it occurs to me that I haven`t used/bought Malm`s for decades, so who knows if it still works OK for this...

And yeah, I vaguely recall somebody else here once saying they used Malm`s, but that was years ago and it seems like nobody uses old-school waxes much any more.

 

[Surly]

Surly, I noticed you said your car wasn`t slick and I noticed in your steps you didn`t mention claying it.

Hiya - nanoskin fine was in place of clay. Prior to re-applying FK it was smooth, but was not slippery. When I`ve just finished a polish it is usually somewhat slippery, but who knows what oils or whatever may be left behind.

For what it`s worth, when I first applied FK last summer it was stripping wash, nanoskin, wash, Menzerna SF4000 polish, Eraser wipedown, FK *2.

 

[JustJesus]

You must`ve indeed used a very good, gentle, technique!

Slowly but surely! I read your posts, and tried to do similar. Although it may have taken more time than my normal clay method, it saved even more time over having to redo the whole thing (polish/clean, rewax).

And yeah, I vaguely recall somebody else here once saying they used Malm`s, but that was years ago and it seems like nobody uses old-school waxes much any more.

Old-school waxes? As in M16? hehe. People are moving toward coatings. I still like waxes for some reason. Sealants on some cars, too.

 

[Accumulator]

... Although it may have taken more time than my normal clay method, it saved even more time over having to redo the whole thing (polish/clean, rewax)...

Good perspective Well, as long as you can pull it off (as you indeed did).

Old-school waxes? As in M16? hehe. People are moving toward coatings. I still like waxes for some reason. Sealants on some cars, too.

Yeah...I was using M16 before switching mostly to Malm`s (for years). I can appreciate waxes looks-wise, and consider some much more durable and protective than some sealants, and might still use a wax on the Jag if I ever get it out of mothballs. Uhm... I mean "when I get it out"

 

[fries]

Add my name to that list... and I couldn`t be more pleased that I did.
Took the gloss on my silver 2012 Tacoma to a level that I have been chasing for 6 years.
Had a neighbor stop yesterday and ask me what I had done to the truck and said it had never looked better.

 

[Lonnie]

Well, Accumulator has not gotten me to buy FK1000P (yet), as I am still of the Collinite 915 wax camp.
BUT, for the price of Collinite 915 I could buy BOTH the FK1000P Hi-Temp wax and the Pink wax and find out for myself what all the hubba-bubba is about in this forum over this wax. Like many experiences in life, you will not know until you try it.
Let`s put it this way: FK1000P is less expensive to buy the Meguiars` OTC Ultimate Paste Wax. (Not considering the shipping cost, of course)

I remember when Finish-Kare used to give out small sample sized tins (3 0z. ??) of both of these waxes when you bought a larger order from them upon request.

 

[Accumulator]

fries- Welcome to Autopia! Glad it`s working out so well for you, and Welcome to the People Compliment My FK1000Ped Vehicle Club too

Lonnie- That 3oz. is about right; mine doesn`t have a net wt. on the label. AFAIK the sample tins were sent out by FK`s one-time distributor "FK1". It`s their logo in largest type on the tin. The label is kinda slap-dash with half the Application Directions being for FK1000P and suddenly switching to references to their Pink Wax halfway through. I got mine when ordering [who knows what], lasted me for a *long* time before I needed to actually buy a full-size tin.

I hadn`t noticed about the cost, that appears to be quite a bargain! Since it hardly ever needs to be reapplied (IMO) that cheaper tin oughta last a lot longer too. All while protecting like no other LSP I`ve ever used.

 

[fries]

Lonnie - I had settled on Jescar Power Lock topped with Collinite 845 after trying a lot of other waxes and sealants, figured that was as good as I was going to get.
Had an issue with the #845 getting "oily" or "greasy" after about a week that required a wipe down again.
Can say I never tried the Collinite #915, but was wowed by the results I got from the FK1000P (now BWM-101)

 

[fries]

Accumulator - Thanks for the welcome and the recommendation.
In your experience is it better to do a second application of Hi-temp and then top with the Pink? Or just use the Pink as a second coat this week after my weekly wash?