A super-swirled "BLACK FRIDAY" *56k* NO

ebpcivicsi said:
I was a little down because I couldn’t remove ALL of the marring, but they were blown away. I am going to take from this detail just how big these suckers are and how difficult it can be to work on GM paint….especially black (it polishes beautifully, but seems as hard as glass). I will try and improve my process for next time and we’ll see what happens. :o
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As someone who works with GM paint 95% of the time, I can relate. Especially with the black, I know what a PITA it can be, so don't feel bad.



Based on your process description, I don't know that another pass with your extreme cut would be my choice. I think I would go for a foam cutting pad with #84 (compound power cleaner) between it and the DACP. From the looks of the "after" marring, I think adding that step would competently remove the rest. You might also consider next time applying one coat of a glaze like #5 before the NXT, especially in a dealership scenario like that. All they really want is for it to look perfect for sale purposes, and that would successfully hide any of the minor stuff like that.



Otherwise, you did an amazing job with it! :buffing:



Out of curiousity, how many miles were on that truck?
 
Holeee !!! amazing transformation..



Apply Hi-Temp Extreme cut with a twisted wool pad via the rotary @2200 RPM’s
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But what is this above mentioned process ? As I rarely see anyone do this ? and was it necessary ?



or could you have begun with #83 and rotary ?
 
tumbler said:
Holeee !!! amazing transformation..







But what is this above mentioned process ? As I rarely see anyone do this ? and was it necessary ?



or could you have begun with #83 and rotary ?
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Not to speak out of turn, but for his situation on GM black, that was in this bad of shape, yeah it was necessary. Hi-Temp Extreme Cut is a VERY agressive compound, and when paired with that speed with a twisted wool pad, it has ALOT of cutting power.



#83 is extremely weak by comparison. At very minimum he would've still had to start with #85 and a stranded wool pad... and I doubt that would've gotten as much done. Remember that while 83 is as aggressive as most people ever tend to get, it's not all that strong in the long run.
 
All I have to say is WOW!! Very impressive work. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you end up charging them?





Keep up the awesome work!
 
Thanks guys!! I appreciate the kind words, I just wanted it to be perfect.



Shiny Lil Detlr, thanks man, yes I was thinking knitted wool with HT heavy cut which is close to #84, so we are on the same page. I definitely think that another pass like this would have allowed for optimum results. Thanks for the advice and ecouragement!!



Also that is exactly what I would have answered about the wool pad combo, thanks!!! :)
 
Oops, sorry but I forgot to check the *actual* mileage. The manager said that it had 40xxx miles on it. It felt horrible to drive it, felt like it couldn't get out of its' own way.
 
I commend you for your honesty. It takes a lot to say when a vehicle truly owns you.



Furthermore, you did a brilliant job. The vehicle easily looks 100% better. You have to think about this in the terms that you also removed a decent amount of clear, so why remove the remaining 1% of swirls to sacrifice the life of the paint even more. Plus, will they even keep it that way?



I have been giving the Hi-Temp polishes a try and I like them a good amount. However, nothing to this day, has been able to touch Menzerna Powergloss. I would highly, HIGHLY reccommend this product for heavy swirls like that. I think you remember some vehicles I did like that:



http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47196&highlight=scotchbrite



http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=54098&highlight=tsx



http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53435&highlight=audi



and the Menzerna has stepped in to take away the defects.



Keep up the amazing work...I surely enjoy looking at it.
 
Thanks Sean, Yeah I was definitely pwned, but I gave it the ole college try. :D



I will look into the powergloss. In fact I think my start another thread about aggressive compounds all together. Thanks for the advice.



BTW, sorry guys someone asked how much I charged- $250 was the total.
 
:shocked :shocked :shocked just stunning work... I would look into either PowerGloss or Opt. Hyper Compound for something extra...PG dusts a lot that the only reason Im saying Hyper....but PG gets the job done! once again great work!



-Justin
 
You added $5000 to the dealer price tag - how much of that are you goning to see?



Excellent recovery, given the starting point!
 
Great work! What is prep-wash and what is its purposes? Also do you like the blower routine for removing dust, (or is it easier just to rinse before the LSP application)? BTW, looks unreal!!!!!



Andrew
 
Turn around so I can pat you on the back!! WOW, that is simply AMAZING WORK!!!!!You added about $5,000 to its value! :up :up :clap: :clap:
 
ebpcivicsi- Well, my "good job!"/etc. oughta go without saying ;) And per usual I'm stunned by how fast you get such results. Glad to hear the initial dealership experience went so well; that bodes well for the future. Heh heh, you sure gave them their money's worth.



Beware of the little voice that says "just a little more.." and remember that jobs like this are all about meeting the customer's expectations. But yeah, I was also thinking about a quick pass with #5 after the #80.
 
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the kind words.



Accumulator, you know I had some #5 on hand as well as some "bulk" dealer supply glaze that is LOADED with fillers--I probably should have applied a coat. Next time, next time. :)



AZ Ferrari Man, prep wash is a product from Hi-Temp and can be purchased through www.topoftheline.com . It can be used for many tasks including, dewaxing a car, removing compound dust, removing polish/compound from panels, cleaning trim, cleaning pads, etc. I use it quite a bit as it is very versatile depending upon the dilution.



As far as the blower/Qd or prep wash for removing dust, yes I prefer it to washing. I spend a large portion of my time during a detail getting the paint clean AND dry. Once I get it clean and dry, I want it to stay that way. Wetting it down (again) is not an option for my process at this time.
 
ebpcivicsi said:
As far as the blower/Qd or prep wash for removing dust, yes I prefer it to washing. I spend a large portion of my time during a detail getting the paint clean AND dry. Once I get it clean and dry, I want it to stay that way. Wetting it down (again) is not an option for my process at this time.
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Agreed. It's a royal pain to chase all of that residual water out of cracks, crevices, and hidden areas between and behind pannels/etc. It is by far my least favorite part of the job! There's nothing worse than polishing a pannel, and notice while working on the next one that there is a drop of water leaving deposits on your freshly finished work in a previous location. :hairpull
 
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