A comparison I don't think I've seen

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Hey, guys. I know we do a lot of polish comparisons on here, such as how does PG stack up to #95 and #105. Or, SIP vs. 1Z Intensive and so on. Well, I've been buying polishes left and right over the past few weeks to build a nice collection so I can be prepared for jobs that come my way. Here is what I have thus far:





Menz:



-To save time, I have every polish they make except for PG. From what I read, I have no need for it.



Megs:



- #83

- #95

- #105



3M:



- Extra Cut

- Regular Rubbing Compound

- Ultrafina



My question is this: Where would Megs #83 rank in the list of cutting ability? Is it comparable to SIP, IP or the regular 3M compound? Is #83 best on hard clears, or soft to medium? I'm guessing it's going to be soft to medium, but I want to be sure.



Sorry the rambling...Just curious about this. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it, but my wallet hates each and every one of you. ;)
 
Unfortunately there's no clear lines there. What Mezerna considers a 5 on the cut scale, Megs might consider a 3 or 6 or who knows.



There are abrasive comparison charts that folks have made but they're not a hard and fast 'rule' or anything like that.



My thought on #83 is it's probably comparable to SIP. I think SuperBee might agree at least in theory. Maybe he'll chime in.
 
Yeah, it's hard to compare some of those, especially since some of the Menz stuff is fairly recent (at least compared to #83). #83 ranked as a six out of 10 on the old scale I used, the same as the old 3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound...... which is most likely pretty close to the RC you have.



So yeah I agree, soft to medium clears..... BTW the companion follow-up to #83 is #80. If you ever do an old SS (single stage) paint those Meg's twins work wonders with their "trade secret" oils.



Like Flux mentioned there are no real absolute guides with all of theses old and new polishes/compounds on them.
 
Thanks, John.



That's exactly what I picked up at CarQuest last weekend, when I bought the Extra Cut and the Ultrafina.



I appreciate the feedback.



Eliot Ness said:
Yeah, it's hard to compare some of those, especially since some of the Menz stuff is fairly recent (at least compared to #83). #83 ranked as a six out of 10 on the old scale I used, the same as the old 3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound...... which is most likely pretty close to the RC you have.



So yeah I agree, soft to medium clears..... BTW the companion follow-up to #83 is #80. If you ever do an old SS (single stage) paint those Meg's twins work wonders with their "trade secret" oils.



Like Flux mentioned there are no real absolute guides with all of theses old and new polishes/compounds on them.
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Eliot Ness said:
Yeah, it's hard to compare some of those, especially since some of the Menz stuff is fairly recent (at least compared to #83). #83 ranked as a six out of 10 on the old scale I used, the same as the old 3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound...... which is most likely pretty close to the RC you have.
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Really? #83 compared to the RC from 3M ? So which is it? The 3M is on the lighter end of the RC side or the 83 is heavier than Meg's lets on? It's about middle of the road on their own abrasiveness chart.
 
Mindflux said:
Really? #83 compared to the RC from 3M ? So which is it? The 3M is on the lighter end of the RC side or the 83 is heavier than Meg's lets on? It's about middle of the road on their own abrasiveness chart.
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I dunno, my bottle of #83 shows a 6 out of 10. It's been a while since I've used either the #83 or the RC, and they would have been on different finishes, so I don't have any recent real-life comparisons to go by. Like you I'd have to guess that PI-III version RC has a bit more cut so put it higher in the cat 6 and #83 a bit lower.



I'm going to have to dust off my 3M RC and MG again pretty soon since I remember how pleasant they were to work with (the PI-III versions).
 
Where was that chart that I saw a while ago that showed the abrasiveness of polishes from different manufacturers? I know it wasn't completely accurate but it was definitely a great chart to follow as a rough guideline.
 
Denzil said:
Where was that chart that I saw a while ago that showed the abrasiveness of polishes from different manufacturers? I know it wasn't completely accurate but it was definitely a great chart to follow as a rough guideline.
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Here's a couple:



Detailer's Product Charts



And this thread has another one. This is the one I copied and used to keep up with and update, but I don't have any of the newer stuff on it:



http://www.autopia.org/forum/detail...ing-additions-corrections-abrasives-list.html



And guys, I didn't make up these charts so if you see something you don't like don't gripe to me ;) .
 
The detailing handbook link showing Mother Pre-Wax Cleaner as cut 4 is clearly wrong. It has cut 2 max per chart, Mothers Power Polish varies by what pad you use. It has been stated to get #83 correction you have to use a yellow pad so the listing is not really complete. The problem is some info on the internet never gets updated once listed,
 
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