Quickstrike
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Reflections said:
I didn't say it "was", just that it "reminded" me.
Nice looking car btw.
#425... I hate when people say WOW!
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I didn't say it "was", just that it "reminded" me.
Nice looking car btw.
Horseman2475
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I have found that using the the Autopia Concourse Towel stopped the hazing I was sometimes getting when putting the HGAS over my FMJ!!
imported_Reflections
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I've never had problems with HGAS hazing until I tried to apply it driectly after washing and it mixed with some water dripping out of the seams and what not.
imported_Bence
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Piniti-Fx (& Co.) has found his inner peace and comfort zone after countless (identical) questions regarding FMJ/HGAS & Wizards by hijacking this.
Don't worry, the thread will turn back to normal in no time and we'll be discussing 425 again.
BTW thanks to 425's slickness I managed to throw away my Sony Ericsson K750i... Luckily nothing broke. And I love 425 on laptops, TVs, whatever-players.
Don't worry, the thread will turn back to normal in no time and we'll be discussing 425 again.
BTW thanks to 425's slickness I managed to throw away my Sony Ericsson K750i... Luckily nothing broke. And I love 425 on laptops, TVs, whatever-players.
PROVE the HYPE!Bence said:
Miami_vice said:wow....but i have yet to see Pictures of the #425 repell dust compared to other good QD's. Can somene cut the WOW, Awesome, really does what it say's, & Prove it next to another QD ? :argue it's funny i have seen people rave about a sealant, wax & post pictures to show the results & how long it last , But this #425 is getting more hype then expected which is weird & unusual.
imported_memnuts
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Seems like this horse has ran its race. :nixweiss
racingbeat
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#425 works well on my black dresser and night stand, flat panel monitor, Carbon Fiber bicycle, Carbon Fiber cranks, anything else in the house?
Sherman8r44
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PINITI-FX said:
Are you talking about its anti-static qualities, or the whole product in its entirety? I've already explained to Miami why the anti-static thing is NOT hype (even though I've never used 425), if you want I can do it for you too.
I think everyone interested in buying 425 should go out to Pepboys and pick up some Mothers FX Spray Wax first. It seems like it performs a similar function, and although it may not have quite the durability of 425 and slightly less cleaning ability, it is an excellent, inexpensive and easily found QD.
imported_Bence
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I'd like to repeat myself again: FX Spray Wax is NOT a QD! To quote Forrest, "...the differences are substantial.
Quick detailers like our Showtime product are used to remove light dust, fingerprints and the like. Their gloss improvement and hiding abilities (in regard to spiderwebbing) generally last a day or so.
FX Spray Wax is a far more substantial product - offering paint protection, like a conventional liquid wax, for 2-3 weeks.
So, while they have similarities like the delivery system, gloss improvement and spiderwebbing hiding ability, one is meant for touch ups while the other lasts for several weeks."
Enough said. That's why I wrote in another thread that we must compare apples to apples, and not QDs with spray sealants. No matter that it is called OCW, FX-100, HGAS or whatever. And I repeat: Finish Kare's #425 is a QD with similar protective qualities as a spray sealant.
Quick detailers like our Showtime product are used to remove light dust, fingerprints and the like. Their gloss improvement and hiding abilities (in regard to spiderwebbing) generally last a day or so.
FX Spray Wax is a far more substantial product - offering paint protection, like a conventional liquid wax, for 2-3 weeks.
So, while they have similarities like the delivery system, gloss improvement and spiderwebbing hiding ability, one is meant for touch ups while the other lasts for several weeks."
Enough said. That's why I wrote in another thread that we must compare apples to apples, and not QDs with spray sealants. No matter that it is called OCW, FX-100, HGAS or whatever. And I repeat: Finish Kare's #425 is a QD with similar protective qualities as a spray sealant.
Sherman8r44
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Bence, I don't want to :argue , but I have been able to clean up fingerprints and 1-2 day old dust with FX Spray Wax, which with your definition would make it a QD. A product like DP Spray Surface Shield, however, is a true spray sealant...I need a perfectly clean surface for it to do its magic, and it lasts about 2 months. I think that the lines between all these types of products are blurring....
imported_Bence
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Yes, because there are quality QDs that last like a spray sealant would. BTW, any liquid, plain water, saliva and the like does remove smudges, fingerprints & Co. A wax, a compound does it too. But they are no QDs. And the above quote is NOT my definition, but Forrest Tosie's (Mothers).
Spilchy
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Sherman8r44 said:
Ah, Sherman, but how you use it and what it was intended for is two separate things.
Mother's Spray Wax is to be used on a clean wet or dry vehicle, leaving behind a waxed surface. It doesn't say to use on a slightly dirty car.
This is completely different from a QD that has the appropriate ingredients to whisk away smudges and dust without marring.
You may have success with FX, thats great, honestly, but that's not it's intent.
So using Bence's description and forcing it to apply to FX doesn't pass mustard, particularly when Mother's doesn't market it the way you use it.
Mothers Showtime is a QD and marketed as such. Mothers FX Spray Wax is not.
I love FX. I use it all the time. Its my new favorite OTC product for paint care maintenance.
I think you're a little off on this one. But if you're having success with it, thats all that matters!
imported_Bence
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FX can be used on a wet or dry surface. It is not a WAUD-type product.
Sherman8r44
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Bence said:
I was using your earlier definition for what you use as a QD.
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I concede...you are all right. I think the problem is that I stubbornly see 425 as a spray sealant; for some reason I have stuck in my head that it just doesn't have enough cleaning ability to be called a true, Showtime-rivaling QD.
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Seth, I understand what you are saying, but what a product is marketed to do and what it actually does are two entirely different things. If it's not marketed as a QD and works okay as a light QD, then what does how it's marketed matter? I do also read a thread on waxforum.com where Forrest said "You're probably referring to cleaning in the sense of removing dust, fingerprints, etc. In that case, both Reflections Spray Wax and FX Spray Wax will clean the paint surface (but they will not polish)." which is actually similar to the claims made by 425 (in terms of cleaning, anyway). That being said, juding by Bence's and other members' posts, 425 still does more in that department.
BTW Bence, Seth was referring to the bolded "CLEAN" part of the statement...he has written there that it can be used wet or dry.
Sherman8r44
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AlexRuiz said:
LOL actually Alex, your review was one of the things taht made me think that 425 was more a spray sealant than QD. And the FX isn't bad on very light dust...but I keep Pro Detailer or Spray and Wipe for the tough stuff.
imported_Bence
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Sherman8r44 said:
No, he corrected it a bit later. He wrote that it is "to be used on a wet vehicle".
What you must understand is the levels of necessity. You can remove smudges, etc. with a QD. This challenge doesn't need a spray sealant/wax. That would be the next step. If you want to add further protection (not the typical 1-3 days of a QD) to a given surface, use the spray sealant/wax. If you would like to protect more, use a dedicated sealant/wax. If you want to correct imperfections, use the appropriate polish/compound. Just don't try to kill a flea with a cannon.
