4" LC CCS pads and PC

mborner said:
AG claims they have LC 4" "flat" foam pads.

According to LC's web site these pads don't exist. Under "spot buff pads" the 4" pads are all CCS pads, not flat. The smallest flat foam pad on LC's web site is 6". Am I looking in the right place or have these pads been discontinued from LC but still available from AG?..................
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Must not have followed all of the links. Try this one for the flat 4" Spot Buff pads:



Lake Country Mfg., Inc.- Products - Spot Buff Pads



The first SPOT BUFF PAD link takes you to the CCS pads, from there you select TO SPOT BUFF PADS to find the flat ones.
 
Eliot Ness said:
I never really thought the 4" pads took me that much longer, even when applying an LSP.
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I much prefer applying LSP w/ the 4" pads as I feel they spread the product a little thinner and seem to use less than the larger ones. One point I never see mentioned is the 4 inchers clean up a whole lot easier than the the 6 inch ones - dunk 'em in the sink w/ some Dawn, work the product out and rinse. The whole process takes just a few mins. for me. Bonus: after squeezing the water out, place on newspaper, press firmly and they're ready to go again, a + if only having two pads.
 
just tried out the 4" ccs orange pads this weekend. They def. correct faster...I find it a bit more difficult to keep it level since the surface area is reduced. This may also happen because I am using a rotary backing plate with the DA adapter? Maybe i'm used to it yet....
 
Has anyone else tried the "low profile" 4" pads that are only about 1/3 inch thick? I'm not a big fan of them. I much prefer the taller pads--better more even polishing IMO.



I'm not a big fan of the cyclo brand 4" pad because the velcro pad backing doesn't adhere as well to my backing plate, especially at higher speeds (5 & 6). I prefer the LC brand.
 
buja said:
how many 4 inch pads of each kind / colour do you guys go thru for the whole car ?
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I did the whole Denali XL via PC/Cyclo with just one set of each (orange, green, white), but I did clean 'em a few times and I did the serious RIDS with the 3.5" PFW first. I can't really recall ever using more than one set per color.



Cassman said:
I will probably get a few of those [3.5" PFW]. I have a friend whose father just gave him a pretty neglected Yukon.
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On the '04 Yukon mentioned above, those pads were easily capable of removing anything shallow enough for safe removal (product was 1Z Pasta Intensiv).
 
get a 5" backing plate with a 5.5" pad, a 6" plate with a 6.5" pad, and a 3.5" plate for a 4" pad...you can then apply pressure to the maching (DA) without bogging it down completely...its when you try to use a 5" plate with a 6.5" pad you can barely put any pressure before bogging it down....
 
toyotaguy said:
get a 5" backing plate with a 5.5" pad, a 6" plate with a 6.5" pad, and a 3.5" plate for a 4" pad...you can then apply pressure to the maching (DA) without bogging it down completely...its when you try to use a 5" plate with a 6.5" pad you can barely put any pressure before bogging it down....
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Differing experience here, I can easily bog both my PCs with 5-6.5" pads even with the right plates, always could. I can bog them with the 4" too, but only by mishandling them.



I'd contrast this with the Cyclo, which might slow down a little but *never* bogs to the point of "just jiggling"/losing full DA/RO motion.



But different bogging experiences aside, you're spot-on. Having the right size backing plate is smart for a host of reasons :xyxthumbs. Even gotta find one that's smaller than 3.5" for use with those LS PFW pads.
 
Gents, is there any advantage to using the 2 3/4 inch rotary backing plate with an adaptor vs. the 3.5' DA backing plate other than the fact that I could use the smaller plate on my rotary as well? I'm pretty happy with the rotary performance just looking to get a little better performance out of the PC for finishing work on dark colors.



Andy
 
AudiOn19s said:
Gents, is there any advantage to using the 2 3/4 inch rotary backing plate with an adaptor vs. the 3.5' DA backing plate other than the fact that I could use the smaller plate on my rotary as well? I'm pretty happy with the rotary performance just looking to get a little better performance out of the PC for finishing work on dark colors.
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I don't like the adaptor (primarily as a matter of principle) but the smaller plate allows the use of 3.5" PFW pads.
 
I'm glad I saw this thread. I use 4" pads exclusively with the PC. I have several orange, white, and blue pads - the original flat ones - and I must say I'm very happy with their performance. :)



I also find that using the 2-3/4" rotary backing plate and DA adapter gives me better control than using the 3.5" adapter. :D
 
Anyone else have trouble with the 4" CCS pads on the PC? I was using the flat ones and liked them, but when I went to order from Autogeek they were no longer available, so I bought the CCS White instead. Seems to be a lot harder to control than the flat ones. Am I missing something? Pad wants to jump around an awful lot, really not a lot of fun.
 
pb foots- I use the flat ones most of the time, but I don't recall ever having any problems with the other types :think:



What speed are you using? Some 4" pads are happiest at lower speeds like 4 or 5.
 
I've been using 5 usually with the 4" pads. Seems to cut down on the heat. I was using 6 until I had a backing plate melt, but 5 seems to work just as well without the heat. the CCS just seems a lot 'grabbier' than the flat ones. Do I need to use more product with the CCS?
 
pb_foots said:
I've been using 5 usually with the 4" pads.... the CCS just seems a lot 'grabbier' than the flat ones. Do I need to use more product with the CCS?
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I really don't know :nixweiss Some pad/product/paint combos just don't work out all that well, maybe this is one of 'em.
 
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