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Phideaux

Phideaux

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I was wondering if anyone here has had much success with 3M. I haven't heard too much chatter about it here or anywhere else, and I was curious. Today, I stopped by a local auto body supply place and they had a ton of Meg's stuff, and some other brand (Wizard?) and a little bit of 3M. The guy said that he thought 3M was by far superior to anything Meguiar's put out, and, as he put it, "better than a lot of stuff you find online."

But then again, he also told my to wash me vehicles, all I needed was a sponge and a brush. To his credit though, he did stress that I use a soft brush.:bubba
 
To me 3M is old school and I only have two bottles left
Once they are gone, no more
I prefer to use menzerna, dinitrol, ppg, four star, detailers pride and other top shelf online gear than anything in the body shop or industrial detail product market
 
I haven't a tonne of experience with them. They dropped a rubbing compound that wasn't VOC compliant, and it was too bad. It could bring back wetsanding marks without a buffer. A lot of their compounds are good, but unlike swirl removers today they tend to dry out the paint a little.
Like SVR said, they are old school, but with a "ch" and not a "k".
 
I just compared the 3M Chrome & Metal polish with Blue Magic (was thinking about this thread). No comparison. Blue Magic was unbelievably better.

But that's just one product.
 
I use 3M to get paint where it needs to be before sealing or waxing. I have used them in a bodyshop for years on new Glasurit adn Sikkens paints, I know how they work. No gimmicks, just cutting and polishing.

Once paint looks proper, I use boutique products to enhance shine and seal.
 
PEI Detail said:
I just compared the 3M Chrome & Metal polish with Blue Magic (was thinking about this thread). No comparison. Blue Magic was unbelievably better.

But that's just one product.
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ditto..
 
I've used there IHG, light cut compound, swirl removers and had great results with them all...The only reason I changed was I found that I like PB P-w-C and his Nattys better....I still use the light cut compound
 
3M Perfect It III Rubbing Compound and Perfect It III Machine Glaze are awesome products. Work great by hand, PC, and rotary. They have been dropped in the USA because of VOC but as far as I know they are still available in Canada and other parts of the world. I have two almost full bottles, one of each, and they will last me a while. First abrasives I reach for when working by hand.
 
3M stuff I find caters to body shops and painters, moreso than Meguiar's generally does. So if he's a paint and body guy, of course he's going to prefer 3M. For us "detailers," for the most part we're going to prefer Meguiar's (at least, I sure do).
 
In mid-December my father removed the snow from my car with a stiff broom. It left ugly and quite deep scratches on the trunklid (new Spring Project).

We washed our cars together with a pal, who is a body shop guy and has quite good skills (as I thought) with the rotary.
He said that he'll remove it. OK. Out came the 3M P-III Trizact compound and removed the defect in no time and left an LSP-ready surface. That was suspicious for me because it worked too fast and left a perfect finish. I thought: A polish can't be that good! But I was pleasantly surprised nevertheless. I threw on a coat of 845, and we were finished.

Then came yesterday. I washed my car with my usual Sonax Gloss Shampoo/garden sprayer-foamer (Which in fact produces pretty good foam!) routine. I was surprised because the water was pooling on the trunk. How can it... Washed once again. I thought that it must be the 1Z -90°C windshield wash. Maybe it is too harsh on LSPs...

But I noticed that the water pooled exactly on that particular area where my pal polished the surface. After drying, I had to realize that the broom scratches are still there (lessened) and additionally, there are disgusting buffer trails too! The damned 3M just hid them! 1.5 months of near perfect illusion! I'll never let a 3M polish touching my car again.

This little happening just taught me that a body shop guy is necessarily just as good as his materials dictate him. The 3M Trizact did a perfect-awful work. The guy thought that it was perfect, his skills were good enough and so did I. I was sceptical though, because of the time/cut/finish factor, but anyhow, I accepted the results. I was wrong.

I'm pretty sure that the unstable filler has compromised the durability of the 845. But I love polishes because of their honesty (like Menzerna, Optimum, FK), and not because of a deceiving illusion.
 
Bence said:
I'm pretty sure that the unstable filler has compromised the durability of the 845. But I love polishes because of their honesty (like Menzerna, Optimum, FK), and not because of a deceiving illusion.
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This is an important fact to remember for the times when we do need to use a glaze or a product that has fillers. As you stated, It will definitely compromise the durability of your LSP so you would have to reapply it (and the glaze) more often.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
3M stuff I find caters to body shops and painters, moreso than Meguiar's generally does. So if he's a paint and body guy, of course he's going to prefer 3M. For us "detailers," for the most part we're going to prefer Meguiar's (at least, I sure do).
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i agree......
 
Bence said:
In mid-December my father removed the snow from my car with a stiff broom. It left ugly and quite deep scratches on the trunklid (new Spring Project).

We washed our cars together with a pal, who is a body shop guy and has quite good skills (as I thought) with the rotary.
He said that he'll remove it. OK. Out came the 3M P-III Trizact compound and removed the defect in no time and left an LSP-ready surface. That was suspicious for me because it worked too fast and left a perfect finish. I thought: A polish can't be that good! But I was pleasantly surprised nevertheless. I threw on a coat of 845, and we were finished.

Then came yesterday. I washed my car with my usual Sonax Gloss Shampoo/garden sprayer-foamer (Which in fact produces pretty good foam!) routine. I was surprised because the water was pooling on the trunk. How can it... Washed once again. I thought that it must be the 1Z -90°C windshield wash. Maybe it is too harsh on LSPs...

But I noticed that the water pooled exactly on that particular area where my pal polished the surface. After drying, I had to realize that the broom scratches are still there (lessened) and additionally, there are disgusting buffer trails too! The damned 3M just hid them! 1.5 months of near perfect illusion! I'll never let a 3M polish touching my car again.

This little happening just taught me that a body shop guy is necessarily just as good as his materials dictate him. The 3M Trizact did a perfect-awful work. The guy thought that it was perfect, his skills were good enough and so did I. I was sceptical though, because of the time/cut/finish factor, but anyhow, I accepted the results. I was wrong.

I'm pretty sure that the unstable filler has compromised the durability of the 845. But I love polishes because of their honesty (like Menzerna, Optimum, FK), and not because of a deceiving illusion.
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Wich 3M code is so plenty of fillers?
 
Bence said:
50077 P-i III Trizact Compound (violet cap).
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My god... I'll receive maybe today 1 L of 50077 :redface:
I hope that 50383 hasn't fillers, I'll receive 1 L of it also.
But it should cut as 09374 as 3M tell that you can use both in this stage, shouldn't it?
 
maesal said:
My god... I'll receive maybe today 1 L of 50077 :redface:
I hope that 50383 hasn't fillers, I'll receive 1 L of it also.
But it should cut as 09374 as 3M tell that you can use both in this stage, shouldn't it?
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I can't comment on 3M, but I do have a suggestion in your particular case.
If you contact 3M and find out that the products you are receiving aren't going to be doing what you want, don't use them.
If you can't return them for at least a partial credit, sell them or give them to someone that wants lots of fillers.
Any costs you have to absorb will probably be well worth it to avoid the frustration that you may have to deal with.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
I can't comment on 3M, but I do have a suggestion in your particular case.
If you contact 3M and find out that the products you are receiving aren't going to be doing what you want, don't use them.
If you can't return them for at least a partial credit, sell them or give them to someone that wants lots of fillers.
Any costs you have to absorb will probably be well worth it to avoid the frustration that you may have to deal with.

Charles
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Thanks for the comments mate. The problem is that the products are comming from Germany, and the shipping costs will make not a nice deal return the product. I'll try the product and I'll take a decision.
Thanks again !!
 
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