3d apc

wascallyrabbit said:
i would go with the citrus one for wax/sealant removal. there are other products designed for this purpose.
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Thanks!! Do you recommend something other than the 3D Citrus Degreaser?? I was trying to make sure it was safe to use on paint.
 
I got the green APC during the thanksgiving sale, I am planning a full review of the green APC. Along with green APC, I got the the yellow degreaser for tire use, and in all honesty, the green APC is not far off the yellow performance wise. In fact, I have found the green diluted at 10:1 is stronger than regular lysol full strength, and too strong for household general cleaning (counters, tables, spray and wipe duty) I have gone 15:1 for those tasks, and I suspect the sweet spot for all around use in the house is 12:1. Even at 15:1 it cuts the grease in dishes, pots and pans decently. Diluted 10:1 is too mild for use with tires, but 4:1 just blasts through anything, and that is the green one.



I think the strength of the 3D degreasers / APCs is: 3D Grand slam (brown) > 3D Yellow > 3D Orange ~= 3D Green > HD TOTAL. How much difference in strength? Probably not even the guys at 3D know for sure.

Ben mentioned in another thread that the green and orange are basically the same product, with the orange containing d-limonene. I am assuming that it means that in addition to the green ingredients, the orange contains d-limonene, not that the d-limonene replaces the active ingredient. The green APC is plenty for wax removal. I just washed some pads with it, add some full strength APC to the bucket, dilute with water (aprox 8:1 or 10:1) and did a fantastic job on the pads. On the downside, the smell is totally industrial. Think purple power or so smell. If the orange smell better, like well, orange, that might be a good reason to use the orange instead.



Ben, could you please give us more insight on the 3D APCs? What makes them different to each other beside the color and the name? A subjective scale of strength? How about smell? I know we have been asking about it, but very scarce info is available. I guess until someone compares the 4 of them we won't know for sure.





Alex
 
If I mix 2 OZ of the Citrus Wash per gallon of water will this effectively strip sealants off of the paint and still be safe??
 
I want to know the answer to this question as well. I just ordered a whole arsenal of 3D/HD products, and am getting ready for a full detail of my vehicles. Starting with Stripping the old LSP.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
i would go with the citrus one for wax/sealant removal. there are other products designed for this purpose.
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I forgot to ask you the question. You have the orange APC, right?

How is the smell? Pleasant citrus? Industrial orange? Industrial only, with orange only in color...?

If the smell is pleasant enough, that might be enough reason to use it over the green APC, which smells totally industrial.
 
As far as I can tell, they are all safe. When I don't have a pressure washer to use, I rinse the car down with water and spray the whole vehicle with grand slam at 4:1 - used normally for wheels/tires. Never had an issue. Hope this helps. Remember this is my experience and 3D may have different opinions.
 
tdekany said:
As far as I can tell, they are all safe. When I don't have a pressure washer to use, I rinse the car down with water and spray the whole vehicle with grand slam at 4:1 - used normally for wheels/tires. Never had an issue. Hope this helps. Remember this is my experience and 3D may have different opinions.
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Is this a prep before your polishing?

Do you use Grand Slam for any interior work? At a diluted ratio of course.
 
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