22ple Finitura

[BudgetPlan1]

Thank you, great review....`slick as snot`. LOL

Did the manufacturer state durability expectations?

It really is incredibly slick, slicker than anything else I`ve used. Guess we`ll see how long it lasts. I didn`t really see and longevity claims from anyone but am thinking 6 months for some reason?

That’s a great review. I think that’s the way to go. Apply it like a coating. I did a silver car this weekend with it but wiped it off after about 2 minutes. I’m gonna try again this weekend and let it sit about 5 minutes. I can’t wait to see some beading shots.

I think maybe a microfiber applicator/applicator cloth would be smoother.

Although sometimes what I think turns out out to be wrong.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

Beading shots Budget!

As slick as it is, don`t thing beads will be on there long. Gonna toss some water at it after 24hrs.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

Little sad the beads didn`t slide right off...

Finitura Rain
https://youtu.be/CgcgxmiM1GI


Finitura Sheet
https://youtu.be/A3SWU2egPKA

Vids kinda suck cuz hose wouldn`t quite get there and it`s a bit chilly outside and I wanted to get it done before anyone saw and wondered what the heck I was doing...again.

Sheets nicely, though.

FWIW, before tossing water on it i buffed it a bit aggressively with my heavy cotton shirt sleeve (hey, it was handy) and it didn`t leave any marks I could see.

 

[Bigmike40nj]

Little sad the beads didn`t slide right off...

Finitura Rain
https://youtu.be/CgcgxmiM1GI


Finitura Sheet
https://youtu.be/A3SWU2egPKA

Vids kinda suck cuz hose wouldn`t quite get there and it`s a bit chilly outside and I wanted to get it done before anyone saw and wondered what the heck I was doing...again.

Sheets nicely, though.

FWIW, before tossing water on it i buffed it a bit aggressively with my heavy cotton shirt sleeve (hey, it was handy) and it didn`t leave any marks I could see.

So where do you rank this as far as toppers that you have used so far?

 

[Bigmike40nj]

Excluding longevity

 

[BudgetPlan1]

So where do you rank this as far as toppers that you have used so far?

Kinda early to tell and haven`t seen it on coated car yet but initial impressions are that it`s right up their with the vaunted Kamikaze Overcoat, but for different reasons.

Finitura is glossier and feels more `substantial` (and slicker) than Overcoat but doesn`t have quite the crazy water behavior of Overcoat. It (Finitura) sheets well, but not quite as well and the beads are larger, yet don`t quite run off of their own accord as quickly.

Finitura will possibly win in durability but it`s kinda in a separate class of product than other boosters. It`s probably more in line with Gyeon CanCoat than it is with things like Cure, VS1 Final Coat, c2v3 and Reload.

I dunno, maybe Gyeon Booster or the new CarPro GLISS is a better comparison but again, it feels more substantial than Booster and I haven`t tried GLISS.

The mfg claim of 500% more scratch resistant than just a coating alone is what would make this appealing...also the high gloss and actual feel of the surface.

It`s ability (hopefully) to last and keep it`s positive attributes for at least 6 months would make it CanCoat-ish and it`s ability to reinforce and likely spruce up coatings would make it Booster-ish.

In any event, I`m gonna do the company owners` metallic red Explorer next week with 22ple HPC and then top it with Finitura; although perhaps `testing` something on the car of the guy who signs my paycheck might not be the best idea...nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I think it may be the best scenario to test the toughness of Finitura; he likes his car clean but is not an Autopian by any stretch. It will likely see some bucket washes but also some touchless tunnels, albeit soap and rinse only.

I also wanna see how glossy Finitura can be on top of the already high gloss 22ple HPC; the paint is such a nice metallic red, kinda like Mazda Soul Red which is just amazing.

Regardless of being called a topper or an actual LSP, if initial indications hold it`s gonna be a really handy thing to have around methinks. And given my past experiences with 22ple, somehow I believe the product is gonna be a winner. They seem to be such a quirky, enigmatic enterprise, kinda near the edges of the mainstream but the stuff of theirs I`ve used had a personality and characteristics unlike most other products. And the results always speak for themselves...great results and fun to use.

 

[Bigmike40nj]

I wish i can post my thoughts as well as you did on here. i did a silver car and it rained the next day. The beading Video he sent me i was not impressed. Im gonna try their activate also when i run out of essence. One thing about that is that it says it can correct and fill, but also be used to repair a coating. Sorry to sway off topic. I have a black audi that im gonna use essence on this weekend and top it with finitura. Once i figure out how to post pics i will.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

I wish i can post my thoughts as well as you did on here.

It`s just the little voices in my head escaping thru a keyboard. They get kinda tired of talking to themselves sometimes.

I did a silver car and it rained the next day. The beading Video he sent me i was not impressed. Im gonna try their activate also when i run out of essence. One thing about that is that it says it can correct and fill, but also be used to repair a coating. Sorry to sway off topic. I have a black audi that im gonna use essence on this weekend and top it with finitura. Once i figure out how to post pics i will.

When I read the description of Activate I thought "Hmm...sounds like Essence and Essence Plus rolled into one."

Ya gonna treat Activate like a polish? Seems to be a lack of definitive instructions. Pondered giving it a try but gotta draw the line somewhere...haven`t used an Essence like product before and the Activate is a pricey way to start.

Will be interesting to see Finitura on a flat roof with water on it. I don`t think it`s necessarily gonna be a big header like some like. I`m not such a fan of big beads as sometimes they dry in the sun and leave a trace. Smaller beads just kinda seem to evaporate...

 

[glfnaz]

I got an email back from 22 PLE about durability. They said `2-6 months depending on environment and wash routine`.
Say what?
Thats a huge variance.
I have Can Coat, 22ple VS1, and Cure. Not sure I need another, but the company`s products are pretty good. Not sure the company`s `mystery shroud` is good or bad.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

Yes I messaged the vendor and at first he said it’s a spray in wipe off topper. Then I informed him it’s a twist top without a sprayer. Then he said to apply it and play around with dwell times.

I got an email back from 22 PLE about durability. They said `2-6 months depending on environment and wash routine`.
Say what?
Thats a huge variance.

Uh, this does not inspire confidence. At a certain point `enigmatic` and `shrouded in mystery` becomes inconvenient and confusing.

Figure 3 months `real` durability and that puts this into a whole `nuther category, right in there with Overcoat, C2V3, Final Coat, Cure and Reload...with a more time consuming application process, a step below CanCoat as an LSP-only choice. Might have to stick a spray top in the bottle and see if it can indeed be applied easily as a spray into towel and spread/buff proposition...although the need to let it flash makes it a more involved deal.

I guess for a mildly Autopian hobbyist an application every 3 months wouldn`t be a big deal, a quick wax/sealant like application to reap the benefits.

Aside from a more `involved` coating topper or limited longevity sealant, kinda in a quandary as to where this product fits now that longevity is essentially likely half of CanCoat...

 

[BudgetPlan1]

FWIW, just finished a vehicle, usual decon, prep, polish the 2 layers 22ple HPC (about 18hrs apart) topped with the recently released Finitura (about 12hrs later). Warehouse was pretty consistent, low humidity, 65 degrees through entire process.

I think Finitura is best applied in Zaino-like (gasp!) manner, that is, as thinly as possible. Used microsuede with block, microfiber with block and round foam microfiber applicator to apply; the typical microsuede with block seemed to work best/most evenly. Waited a variety of times between application and removal. From 3 to 20 minutes. Seemed like anywhere between 5 & 10 yielded similar results.

Was kinda finicky to remove in the sense of wiping absolutely, completely, `looking for haze in the pinpoint tip of a scangrip penlight` clean kinda way. Getting that very last bit of haze required a very, very light touch with a short nap towel. Tried a variety various nap towels, short nap seemed best. Went thru a stack of towels; seemed like any amount of residue on wipe off towels would reintroduce the haze to a previously clean section.

Regardless, in the end turned out fine just took a bit of time to figure out how to leave truly clean surface. Surface much slicker after application, gloss maybe up just a bit but after looking at shiny red paint for a few days...cant honestly say.

Have a couple of daily driver coworkers cars with 22ple HPC on `em so we`ll see how the addition of Finitura affects the performance of the base 22ple HPC.

Will have to see how it does before deciding if I like it or not in this capacity, currently on the fence; certainly not as easy to use as IGL Premier I recently tried.

 

[Bigmike40nj]

That looks great. I also applied it to my car which is coated with VX Pro 2. I applied it with a microfiber applicator and let it sit for 15-20 minutes. It’s was defiantly stubborn to remove. But It left a slick feel with more gloss. At least i think. Anyways I can wait to see the water behavior

 

[BudgetPlan1]

I forgot to try the 22ple suggestion of removing with a slightly damp microfiber cloth, will have to give it a try. I didn`t have any streaking but getting that last little bit of haze/residue was a bit irritating. As I mentioned above, the water shedding/beading/hydrophobics are not quite up to Kamikaze Overcoat standards....so I`m not sure where this product fits for me. Based on mfg claims:

1. Positive: "Finitura will improve scratch resistance on glass coatings by over 500%. If you keep getting watermarks this is an absolute must have product as it will repel them incredibly well!"

2. Negative: "I got an email back from 22 PLE about durability. They said `2-6 months depending on environment and wash routine`."

As mentioned, pretty large window, 6 months might be OK to deal with but anything less might make it not worth the trouble/cost. It`s not cheap stuff and 22ple HPC works so well on it`s own, not sure what added benefit Finitura brings to the table (unless #1 above proves to be true)

I guess we`ll see...

That looks great. I also applied it to my car which is coated with VX Pro 2. I applied it with a microfiber applicator and let it sit for 15-20 minutes. It’s was defiantly stubborn to remove. But It left a slick feel with more gloss. At least i think. Anyways I can wait to see the water behavior

 

[MattPersman]

FWIW, just finished a vehicle, usual decon, prep, polish the 2 layers 22ple HPC (about 18hrs apart) topped with the recently released Finitura (about 12hrs later). Warehouse was pretty consistent, low humidity, 65 degrees through entire process.

I think Finitura is best applied in Zaino-like (gasp!) manner, that is, as thinly as possible. Used microsuede with block, microfiber with block and round foam microfiber applicator to apply; the typical microsuede with block seemed to work best/most evenly. Waited a variety of times between application and removal. From 3 to 20 minutes. Seemed like anywhere between 5 & 10 yielded similar results.

Was kinda finicky to remove in the sense of wiping absolutely, completely, `looking for haze in the pinpoint tip of a scangrip penlight` clean kinda way. Getting that very last bit of haze required a very, very light touch with a short nap towel. Tried a variety various nap towels, short nap seemed best. Went thru a stack of towels; seemed like any amount of residue on wipe off towels would reintroduce the haze to a previously clean section.

Regardless, in the end turned out fine just took a bit of time to figure out how to leave truly clean surface. Surface much slicker after application, gloss maybe up just a bit but after looking at shiny red paint for a few days...cant honestly say.

Have a couple of daily driver coworkers cars with 22ple HPC on `em so we`ll see how the addition of Finitura affects the performance of the base 22ple HPC.

Will have to see how it does before deciding if I like it or not in this capacity, currently on the fence; certainly not as easy to use as IGL Premier I recently tried.

The truck looks great FWIW


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[BudgetPlan1]

Has anyone else tried Finitura or formed any other opinions on it? I`m still not quite sure about it.

 

[SgtMajUSMC]

Well, I had considered it, but after you said you weren’t sure about it( or similar) just before my last coat of HPC, I decided to use VS1. I already had that AND at $85 for the Fintura I would expect PA type glowing comments.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

Well, I had considered it, but after you said you weren’t sure about it( or similar) just before my last coat of HPC, I decided to use VS1. I already had that AND at $85 for the Fintura I would expect PA type glowing comments.

Reading back thru the thread, I`m not sure 22ple is sure what to make of it, heard more about it prior to release than after.

Same as Activate; directions are sketchy. Can use before or after coatings, is panel wipe required after 24 hours of using Activate prior to coating a la` Gyeon Primer or only if ya don`t wait 24 hrs?

Great product line but Finitura/Activate surely coulda come with a bit more background.

 

[William_Wallace]

Resurrecting this thread because the good dude budgetplan1 sent me some of his stash to play with.

Here are my observations this product to me seems like an unfinished product or a rushed release something is up with this product. It is hard to put onto a coated cars initially because the coating rejects the thin liquid and beads/sheets it as the water or water based carrier solution evaporates at a fast rate it begins to bond to the coating quickly and streaks easy what ever resin is in the product seem very durable because it has the hard to remove high spot issue but does not rainbow. Instead of rainbow it streaks like reload can at times... but theses streaks cure hard and bond hard to the coating. I added VS1 final coat during this fast flash it did help to level the streaks but did not completely resolve the issue. After playing around with this product the most successful application was a DA application pre mixing the product with its cousin VS1 final I used a soft black pad speed 3 then spread it on to normal sized coating square area cross hatch style and immediately wiped this took care of the streaking problem.

The claim of %500 increase in scratch resistant maybe true because of the slickness increase. It is by far the slickest product I have used. It was put over CQUK which is a super grabby coating . This product to me is not a coating topper it is better described as somewhere between a water based “lite coating” and a traditional sealant. Water behavior will decrease this only increases slickness and maybe self cleaning, gloss.

A good application area for me is wheels. We all know coating cure to some type of lattice structure filling in the pores of the paint give the surface the lotus effect to me this coating seems to sit between the coating molecules providing excellent slickness and probably good water spot defense for cars that are maintained regularly. It seems unfinished the product and can use a tweak I would try to avoid application above 75 degrees or the fast flash and hard curing streaks will be hard to deal with.