2008 Mustang Bullitt full detail

Obviously you guys know how to look for these things and I assume you have seen them on other cars - the milky way looking swirls that are very uniform and symetical - they are all over my car in the right light. You guys are familiar with these things, right??? How do you keep your finish from developing these things???? What is your regimen?



I assume these cars are your daily drivers as this is mine. I have been tempted to strip off wax and just do each panel with PC and Griots #2 and #3 machine polish (no fillers) to get the damn finish back to new (only a year old). Then apply multiple coats of whatever is the best SEALANT, not wax, to protect.



Whaddya think? Do you have a prescription, doctors? Please include product, foam pad type, etc.



Help an obsessive reptile satisfy his #@$% perfectionistic wishes!!!



:bounce



ps Bill - I know exactly what you mean when you are looking at the paint from a zillion angles and others are watching you....I do it all the time!!
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by The Lizard [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>they are all over my car in the right light. You guys are familiar with these things, right??? How do you keep your finish from developing these things???? What is your regimen?

I assume these cars are your daily drivers as this is mine. I have been tempted to strip off wax and just do each panel with PC and Griots #2 and #3 machine polish (no fillers) to get the damn finish back to new (only a year old). Then apply multiple coats of whatever is the best SEALANT, not wax, to protect.

Whaddya think? Do you have a prescription, doctors? Please include product, foam pad type, etc.

Help an obsessive reptile satisfy his #@$% perfectionistic wishes!!!

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well I think that it all starts with the correct washings... I use the one bucket system with the little rack inside the bucket to keep the mit out of the dirt at the bottom of the bucket, wash from top to bottom, after I wash a panel I rinse out the mit, next is the drying, I use a Elect leaf blower to get most of the water off then a absober to "blot" the leftover water. I use Zaino but I think with the correct washing/drying/towels any finish can be swirl free......
 
Ok so what causes these spiderwebs? Wrong product application, is ZFX, a hardening agent behind all of this. If everyone would state exactly thier methods of applying products maybe we could get to the root of the problem. I wonder if these scratches are already there but are amplified by the effects of the wax or sealant applied. I noticed while applying Zaino for the first time finishing under a 500 watt halogen that a 1/2 inch by foot long marr, scratch, (or I didn't know what it was) on the spoiler. I was stunned, did I scratch it, but in the sunlight I can't see it. Rest of the car looks great from all angles. > Redcar I wish I had a gas station like that in my area.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intel486 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I don't really think you can get rid of them all. Most of the show cars I saw at the local hotrod show had the milk way marks on them. [/b]</blockquote>
Ok I am done talking about this then:):cool:
 
I think it depends a lot on the color of car. My black civic has tons of spiderwebbing and imperfections, in daylight. At night time it looks simply breathtaking. I'm not just saying that the lack of sunlight covers the problems up... it's just that the combination of all the dark colors make it look really cool. Of course in direct daylight it looks like any other car on the road... a little less swirling... but lots of spiderwebbing and 3d holographic swirls.. really looks bad. Of course i've found a solution... i'm going to use this as my nighttime driver... and buy a brand new red or blue car (::drool:: blue WRX) as my daily driver. Of course this is if i had money to do so...
 
OK, it looks like I created a MONSTER. I used the term Milky Way

to describe the look of thousands of connected dots when you

look at the suns direct reflection on the top of your vehicle.



This may be different than spiderwebbing, scarring, marring,

swirleys, smileys, and other assorted paint-demons.



Oh no! Paint Demons, maybe I have another phrase here.



I was grinding and grinding some 3M 39009 into my paint

the other day and my Milky Way just ate it up. Maybe it's

the Black Hole. Felt like I was Lost In Space.



I asked the gents at One Grand some years ago about this

and they said don't even worry about them as there is little

you can change because cars age like we do. Just look at our

skin every ten years. We all have paint [ I mean ] skin demons.



Let's just imagine our cars get better with age like Cher and

Sean Connery.



But here is our main problem. Let's say your car gets dirty.

When we do our pre-wash rinse not all of the dirt is

removed. This small amount of stuck on dirt is actually little

meteorites. As you apply your wash medium with suds you are

still going to gring these meteorites into your paint to some

extent so you can lift them off. The're not going to pop off your

paint as if you had a magnet washmitt. So there has to be

some sandpaper effect on a minute scale. Do this 325 times

a year like most Autopians do and you have 600 grit.



Well with all the crat going on in the world I hope I made a

few of you laugh.



So who manages the Forum acronyms? Maybe we can add

the MW- Milky Way and PD-Paint demons.



Joy To The World



All The Boys & Girls Now
 
the official acronym deffintions are done by the moderators.. there is a link near the top of the screen to those. My page is just sort of an unoffical compiled list i thought might be of help. Rather than just giving what the acronym stands for it gives a little bit of info about it and what it references to. Thought it might help newer people into the boards easier.
 
My truck isnt swirl free...but it is always the nicest in any parking lot. ( unless another autopian is parking there )
 
So I started detailing the Bullitt yesterday and finished today. Thanks to all the members that gave me pointers along the way as this was the first time I used the PC 7624 buffer with M105/M205 compounds. I'm very please with the results as the swirls are gone and the paint is smoother than glass. The whole process was:
1. Wash
2. Clay bar
3. Tape off plastic stripping so it doesn't turn white from the wax.
4. Tested the Meguiar's M205 first to see if it was aggressive enough. It wasn't so I tried the M105 and that did a better job.
5. Used Meguiar's M105 compound to get rid of a lot of the swirls and scratches.
6. Use Meguiar's M205 compound
7. Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
8. Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish
9. Clean interior
10. Maybe clean engine bay - did not happen. Didn't have the time of energy to tackle this part of the car.

Here's a pic of after the clay bar just to see the swirls on the hood.

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Here are pics of the finished results. I think it really came out great looking. Tons of the swirls are gone as they should be. That Meguiar's M205 and M105 really made a different. :thumbup:

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Here's a picture of the door and reflection - like a mirror
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Here's the roof, I was hoping to get some cloud reflections but there weren't any
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I wish I knew more about photography as I'd have some better pics...
 
weekendwarrior said:
Great job. As a new detailer, I commend you for trying the 205 first, before automatically assuming you need the more agressive 105.
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Thanks, from everything I read it said to start with the least aggressive and if you're not happy with then go more aggressive. I start with the M205 with a light pad, then tried a harsher pad. Then moved onto the M105 with a light pad and ended up using the harsher pad.

Although it was a long/tedious process I really enjoyed doing it and am very happy with my results. I'll definitely be doing this every year whether it needs it or not.
 
Looks Awesome I Love Mustangs

my first car was a 67 with turn signal hood slots so i always have had a fondness for them ever since--great job :clap:
 
Looks great there VitalZ, hope the BFWD was put on last, not the other way.
 

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I noticed the same thing. I hope you just typed the process out of order. The BFGEP should always be done before applying the BFWD.

BTW, the car looks great!!
 
Well I screwed it up then cause I did the Gloss Enhancing Polish last. ~X( Can I just wash it and put another coat of the Paint Protection on???
 
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