2006 Porsche Cayman S Restored using Prima Swirl

Thanks! I moved in here in January, though wasn't there full time until March, and my building sign didn't go up until last month. West Coast Corvettes used to be at this location. I'm still trying to make the shop optimal for my needs--lighting is still the worst problem--but some custom solutions are in the works that will resolve that soon as I get some free time, lol.



Richard





Dylan06SS said:
Great work... and looking at some of the pictures I know exactly where the shop is... I've probably driven past it 100 times.
 
A very detail write-up and I can tell you really pay attention to even the smallest detail of the car :2thumbs: The Porsche already looked fantastic even before your final polishing and it is really a pity we did not have sun shot on the finished job.
 
Thanks! Yeah for jobs where I can have the car for two days, that's possible, but for one day jobs like this--there just aren't enough daylight hours, lol. Well I suppose I could start earlier if the customer wants to get to my shop at 5 to 6AM. But that's why I took those sun shots before the sun went down to show the progress from when I started to how I was progressing. Sometimes I can get the customer to send me daytime shots after the fact, but I recall that he had to do some travelling the next day, so not sure where he or the car is right now. :grinno:



Gen2 said:
A very detail write-up and I can tell you really pay attention to even the smallest detail of the car :2thumbs: The Porsche already looked fantastic even before your final polishing and it is really a pity we did not have sun shot on the finished job.
 
OctaneGuy said:
Thanks! I moved in here in January, though wasn't there full time until March, and my building sign didn't go up until last month. West Coast Corvettes used to be at this location. I'm still trying to make the shop optimal for my needs--lighting is still the worst problem--but some custom solutions are in the works that will resolve that soon as I get some free time, lol.



Richard



Yep... good old WCC... my dads a vette nut so he used to be over there all the time draining his wallet, hes tapered off a bit since hes waiting for his 08 w/ the LS3 to come in.



Once you get everything dialed in I'll have to come check it out... I live just north a ways (rancho cucamonga) but I spend a lot of time in that area going to angels games, disneyland, and hanging out at Go Ez customs.
 
Its great. Its a staple for me. Having used Meguiars Professional products for the past 4 years, the switch to Prima has been pretty easy. Of course there's a reason why I also stock the products at my shop. I love the fact that I can use one polish and go to wax from there and get the type of results I expect. Swirl has effectively replaced my M80 which I used to use for everything.



Richard



yoojeankim said:
awesome work! how do you like that Prima swirl?
 
Just realized my post wasn't very complimentary. I have followed your work from the old Meguiars Online days and your work on the Mustang and Camaro where very inspiring. You do amazing work!!!
 
OctaneGuy said:
I love the fact that I can use one polish and go to wax from there and get the type of results I expect. Swirl has effectively replaced my M80 which I used to use for everything.



Richard



Richard, would you mind expanding on your thoughts of switching from Meg's to Prima and where you see the pros/cons of the products and the techniques used to get results from them? I'm new to polishing and still trying to master the Meg's system, but curious about others.
 
Well it's pretty simple. Having learned and mastered the Meguiar's M80 series system--M80 with the rotary and the W8006 pad solved most polishing problems. If I needed to get more aggressive, I could either do more passes, or go to M83 or M84 with a cutting pad.



When using the PC, your polishing potential is limited to W8006 and M80 or M83 or M82. It's great for certain types of defects but its limited. Essentially it's a fool proof system for anyone learning the PC, but to stay within the system really requires you to move to the rotary for more correction capability.



In the Prima system, like other systems that utilize the Lake Country pads, the polishing chemicals and pad choices give you more correction potential. Although they have a very aggressive yellow pad, very rarely have I needed it whereas I've been able to remove sanding marks and defects with the LC orange pad either on my rotary or on the PC/UDM.



In comparisons where I've polished out a black Corvette with the PC vs Rotary, the rotary polished out a panel about twice as fast as the PC with Prima. Using the Meguiar's system on the PC had no effect, and you will find these comments on the MOL forum all the time, that Corvette paint is too hard for the PC.



One of the things I try to let people understand about speed comparisons between using the PC and RB is that while the initial polishing and removal of defects is faster with the RB, it also splatters quite a bit, so proper prep is essential on the RB, so you have to figure in time to tape, protect, and clean up. Also you need to follow the RB up with the PC to remove holograms, so the average time between using the PC or RB probably actually is a wash.



However, I still use the RB first over the PC because on long jobs, that initial verification of correction that I'm trying to achieve--the nearly flawless finish--having immediate gratification is important to me. But for those that have plenty of time or don't have RB skills, the PC with the Prima system can do incredible results--much further than what you could do with Megs alone.



There's another thread here on Autopia asking about whether the PC can remove sanding marks.

http://autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing/93625-pc-wetsanding.html#post961534



I've posted pictures of test spots on a sanded hood I polished the other day using the PC and UDM, something that MOL will say you can't do with a PC--which is correct, you couldn't do this with their system.



For this Cayman S, the fact I used only one polish--Prima Swirl and two pad types--LC Orange and LC White to achieve the finish I desired made for finding the proper combination a no brainer.



If I had used the Meguiar's system, I might have compounded the finish using M84 and a W7006 cutting pad, and followed it by M83 and or M80 before getting to the PC with M80 then getting to LSP. Just more steps and more mess to get the same results.



I still use the Meguiar's system, but I find that I like and prefer using Prima more and more over Megs everytime that I use it.



Richard







Redbird74 said:
Richard, would you mind expanding on your thoughts of switching from Meg's to Prima and where you see the pros/cons of the products and the techniques used to get results from them? I'm new to polishing and still trying to master the Meg's system, but curious about others.





Haha, it's ok. I remember your posts and thank you! :D

TH0001 said:
Just realized my post wasn't very complimentary. I have followed your work from the old Meguiars Online days and your work on the Mustang and Camaro where very inspiring. You do amazing work!!!
 
Nice turnaround, and it's nice that you taught the owner as you were detailing, kind of the whole "teach a man to fish" thing; that's great. Beautiful car, and I like the color too. On a side note, there's no reason a car should be that swirled after being, what, 2 years old at most? The previous owner (or the dealer or detailer, whatever the case) must not have known what they were doing. Anyway, great job!
 
I really enjoyed this write-up, great shop you're working in as well! Do you have some more pics of it?
 
Hello Autopia.org members:



That is my 2006 Cayman S in those pics!! ...and yes, as I bought the car pre-owned, there were lots of nasty swirls in the paint!



I've only owned the car a couple of months...and although the clear coat and paint "condition" was in overall good shape, I didn't feel that the car's finish had the "WOW!" factor that it should have. I attribute the poor treatment of the paint to the previous owner who just didn't know very much about caring for a dark-colored car...probably sent it through one of those belt machine car washes on a regular basis...yikes!



I also came to the realization that for my situation I needed a professional, such as Richard at ShowCarDetailing.com, to help restore the paint to a no-swirl, lustrous condition with that wet-look shine!



Richard spent roughly 11-12 hours prepping and detailing the Cayman S, and that's just the exterior! He even used three different types of polishing machines!



The detail is not cheap in absolute dollars but also far, far cheaper than a new paint job. I have to say that for the amount of time, devotion, and effort involved (plus the learning experience), the detail Richard did was a terrific bargain. My car's paint was in dire need of premium help.



It also was a great experience working side-by-side with Richard to "unlearn" all the wrong things I knew about detailing. I was surprised at how much I thought I knew is just flat-out incorrect. I recommend spending the day with Richard at his shop to learn about proper paint condition assessment and polishing!



For me personally, I am thrilled with the result! My favorite pic is below:



:goodjob
 

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you have factor in cost that original paint adds too- ive seen dealers take off 8 grand because its not original paint. add that to 3 grand for a good paint job(not even great) .the "actual cost" of the paint job is over 10 grand
 
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