FIDOAG14
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So I picked up a bottle of Meguiars #7 from the local Autozone, do I need to do anything to the paint I`ve already waxed before using it? Or just go for it and re-wax when I`m done?
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1931 Chevy Detailing
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Accumulator
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Generally, you`d want to use the M07 *before* the wax as the wax will "protect" the paint from M07 same as it does from anything else. I`ve known people who applied M07 over wax for a carshow, but it didn`t look good IMO (basically looked like a smeary mess to me), but YMMV.
I myself would just wait until it needs waxed again and use the M07 then.
The general idea is to get the paint to "soak up"/absorb as much M07 as it can hold, while wiping away the excess. Then use the wax to seal it in. Sometimes you can wax over top of the excess M07 and when you buff the wax residue off it`ll also remove the excess M07, but that bit me enough times that I quit doing it.
Note that M09 (do they still make that one?) has the same Trade Secret Oils plus (utterly minimal) very mild abrasives and it can do even *better* filling/concealing than M07 does. Won`t "feed" the paint as well though, and don`t expect those abrasives to actually do any correction, IME they just make for an easier wipe-off.
Heh heh, gee...this M07 talk brings back memories
FIDOAG14
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Ok update from the weekend! Didn`t get as much done as wanted to (partly because the super regional`s were on and mostly because I encountered some serious contamination on the trunk and rear passenger fender)
So I started claying the rear passenger fender and the trunk and my guess is somebody had spray painted something red near the car at some point. It wasn`t visible to me when I started but immediately it turned the clay red and as you can see from the pictures, it looked like I was sanding the car! Needless to say that took a while but I did eventually get it cleaned up, RIP clay bar.
After I did all that I unfortunately only had time to polish/glaze/wax the passenger door. Paint sure isn`t perfect but it shines like nobody`s business! That Megs #7 is good stuff! And the paint was awful thirsty to soak up as much as it could.
This is what the trunk looked like on first pass with the clay!
Top of the passenger door all shined, glazed, and waxed
Passenger door, granddad asked what I was doing to make it shine like that so I included all the products
So I started claying the rear passenger fender and the trunk and my guess is somebody had spray painted something red near the car at some point. It wasn`t visible to me when I started but immediately it turned the clay red and as you can see from the pictures, it looked like I was sanding the car! Needless to say that took a while but I did eventually get it cleaned up, RIP clay bar.
After I did all that I unfortunately only had time to polish/glaze/wax the passenger door. Paint sure isn`t perfect but it shines like nobody`s business! That Megs #7 is good stuff! And the paint was awful thirsty to soak up as much as it could.
This is what the trunk looked like on first pass with the clay!
Top of the passenger door all shined, glazed, and waxed
Passenger door, granddad asked what I was doing to make it shine like that so I included all the products
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FIDOAG14
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FIDOAG14- Yeah, people are always painting stuff in garages. Looks like you got that sorted out OK.
And yeah, with some old-tech paints the M07 *does* get soaked up, especially the first time. Glad it`s going so well.
And yeah, with some old-tech paints the M07 *does* get soaked up, especially the first time. Glad it`s going so well.
FIDOAG14
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Been a while since I`ve posted any updates... Life happens, y`all know what that is like.
I have added some essential tools to the collection though! 6V/12V Battery Charger, 2 Ton Hydraulic Jack, and Jack Stands. Once I get a 4 way wrench I`ll take the wheels off and clean them up.
Wanted to pose a question to everyone. I`ve pretty much completed the exterior (I`ll roll the car outside for some shots in the sun this weekend) and now I am ready to clean up the engine area.
What should be my approach to cleaning up the engine? I was thinking either ONR at a little stronger dilution than washing or I have Blackfire Waterless Wash and a whole bunch of terry towels.
Here is a picture of the engine.
I have added some essential tools to the collection though! 6V/12V Battery Charger, 2 Ton Hydraulic Jack, and Jack Stands. Once I get a 4 way wrench I`ll take the wheels off and clean them up.
Wanted to pose a question to everyone. I`ve pretty much completed the exterior (I`ll roll the car outside for some shots in the sun this weekend) and now I am ready to clean up the engine area.
What should be my approach to cleaning up the engine? I was thinking either ONR at a little stronger dilution than washing or I have Blackfire Waterless Wash and a whole bunch of terry towels.
Here is a picture of the engine.
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FIDOAG14- Within reason, I wouldn`t hesitate to get that engine compartment wet. Just cover/protect the obvious stuff like the generator.
If you want to use a waterless/rinselss, better mix it quite strong. Eh, I wouldn`t use that until after it`s had a "big cleanup" (use for maintenance). I like using solvents for areas where I don`t want to get things wet or I`m concerned about things like runoff.
You gonna use Calyx Manifold Dressing on the Exhaust Manifolds, or are you gonna, uhm....do it right? Note that "doing it right" would be a pretty tall order...
If you want to use a waterless/rinselss, better mix it quite strong. Eh, I wouldn`t use that until after it`s had a "big cleanup" (use for maintenance). I like using solvents for areas where I don`t want to get things wet or I`m concerned about things like runoff.
You gonna use Calyx Manifold Dressing on the Exhaust Manifolds, or are you gonna, uhm....do it right? Note that "doing it right" would be a pretty tall order...
Accumulator
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Eh, I`d better be more explicit/opinionated- I wouldn`t expect a waterless/rinseless to be sufficiently potent, wouldn`t even bother trying it. But hey, that`s just me.
LEDetailng
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Good advice. I would look into a rinseless/waterless wash. Stay with Natty`s wax and you should be good to go. I`m guessing single stage paint. Look up the Meguiar`s #7 treatment by Mike Phillips.
Better yet here is the link:
The #7 Rub Down Technique by Mike Phillips
FIDOAG14
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LED, yep I washed with ONR! Worked like a charm. The real !#$%& was claying the car, as it had contamination like I`ve never seen.
The paint is thick and not perfect (my dad painted it 20 years ago) so I`m not overly concerned about it, just want it to look nice but I fully acknowledge it will need repainted at some point down the road if I want to make a show car of it.
FIDOAG14
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Ok, it`s been a little while since I posted any updates here.
So I worked on the two rear fenders and the trunk during the evenings this week and got some pretty spectacular (IMO) results.
It is very apparent that I will need to wetsand the trunk but that will come later.
So I combined and put captions on the images for the write up portion. BIG thanks to Dan F and LEDetailing for suggesting Megs #7 and the #7 Rub Down technique, I think it made a huge difference.
Side note: I am currently working on getting it registered using plates from 1931 if anyone has experience with this.
So I worked on the two rear fenders and the trunk during the evenings this week and got some pretty spectacular (IMO) results.
It is very apparent that I will need to wetsand the trunk but that will come later.
So I combined and put captions on the images for the write up portion. BIG thanks to Dan F and LEDetailing for suggesting Megs #7 and the #7 Rub Down technique, I think it made a huge difference.
Side note: I am currently working on getting it registered using plates from 1931 if anyone has experience with this.
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JustJesus
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Coming along nicely :bigups
Accumulator
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Yeah, that`s looking *good*.
FIDOAG14
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Update: I haven`t posted anything about the car because well.... nothing has happened!
However, yesterday after having the starter rebuilt, I got everything hooked up and turned the old car over! The radiator is leaking (hope its just a hose!) and I must`ve flooded the carburetor but by golly it will run!
That has been a pain in my side since I brought the car down. Here is a picture of the pole shoes in the starter pre-rebuild.
As far as detailing goes, well it`ll need another bath soon and I still need to clean three of the wheels up.
Nothing going on with the car this week as I will be painting my garage tomorrow!
However, yesterday after having the starter rebuilt, I got everything hooked up and turned the old car over! The radiator is leaking (hope its just a hose!) and I must`ve flooded the carburetor but by golly it will run!
That has been a pain in my side since I brought the car down. Here is a picture of the pole shoes in the starter pre-rebuild.
As far as detailing goes, well it`ll need another bath soon and I still need to clean three of the wheels up.
Nothing going on with the car this week as I will be painting my garage tomorrow!
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Accumulator
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FIDOAG14- Appreciate the update, you don`t see much stuff like the inside of that starter these days.
FIDOAG14
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Accumulator,
Glad you liked it! I know it`s not detailing related but I found it interesting. Working on things like that are fun and infuriating at times. Once I got the starter back I still couldn`t get it to work! So I went through the switch and the pedal mechanism that engages the starter. Took some doing but finally got the switch to close the circuit. I love this car for a lot of reasons but everything being mechanical really makes it fun. That starter is really pretty simple and yet quite sophisticated.
Glad you liked it! I know it`s not detailing related but I found it interesting. Working on things like that are fun and infuriating at times. Once I got the starter back I still couldn`t get it to work! So I went through the switch and the pedal mechanism that engages the starter. Took some doing but finally got the switch to close the circuit. I love this car for a lot of reasons but everything being mechanical really makes it fun. That starter is really pretty simple and yet quite sophisticated.
Accumulator
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Yeah, that`s a big part of what I like about it too!
Glad you were able to sort out the starter. Now we`ll see about that coolant leak...
JustJesus
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Just one reason I miss my older cars (carburetor simplicity!). Neat seeing the inside of that starter
Accumulator
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I can`t say I miss carburetors...all my FI systems are as reliable as sunrise with virtually zero maintenance.
JustJesus
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Ahh. Yes, that is true with me as well. So why the heck do I miss them? Feeling nostalgic, I guess.