105/205 questions

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Rez90

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i just received my 105 and 205.



Just curious to all of you die hards out there. Do you use 105/205 on everything? light correction? Heavy correction? Just curious if the combo is ever too much.



and also...i was noticing that many people use 205 on a grey pad which has basically no cut...does that mean that 105 finishes down with no noticeable marring? I ask this because when i use uno with a orange pad on dark colors i have to go over the area again with a lighter pad to get rid of the marring.



Any info, tips, or advice is appreciated as i'm excited to use this product...i just don't want to use a product like 105 on a car that doesn't need it... I know i have to experiment....but of course i'd love some tips from people who already have these products mastered and under their belt. :xyxthumbs



thanks much.
 
on lighter color cars 105 will finish down without anu noticeable marring but like all polishes i have used will need to do a 2nd step on the darker cars
 
When people are using M205 on a grey pad, it's probably because they're doing a 3 step. M105 with cutting pad, M205 with polishing pad, M205 again with finishing pad.
 
In hindsight, I don't like the way I expressed this part of my reply-





Accumulator said:
-M205 can ...sometimes have a bit too much cut (just the product, the pad won't factor in) for a flawless finish...
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"Flawless" is the wrong word there :think: It's not like there are *flaws* or micromarring, or anything else like that. It's just that since the M205 doesn't break down, there's a limit to how gentle it can be. So sometimes other products can bring up the gloss a tiny bit. Please don't put too much weight on that and don't read it as either a criticism of M205 or even something you need to watch out for. If there weren't, say...certain Menzerna products, this wouldn't even bear mentioning (if it *does* even bear mentioning at all).



It's more like "gee, I wish Meguiar's would come out with a M305 polish for those of us who are really nutty".
 
Accumulator said:
I dunno if I have those products "mastered, but some sorta-random thoughts follow anyhow:



-M105 should only be used when necessary, and that shouldn't be often. I worry about all the cc failure we're gonna see down the road now that serious products like that are soooo common and user-friendly.



-M205 can do some nice, very gentle polishing on a gentle pad, but there's an almost paradoxial aspect to that too; it'll sometimes have a bit too much cut (just the product, the pad won't factor in) for a flawless finish and/but will also sometimes be too gentle to do what's expected, and the seeming paradox is that those two things can happen on the same paint!



-M105 seems to finish out nicely on some paints, but hit those cases with a SunGun in a dark room and I bet you'll change your mind about that. And you can see the same hazing under (admitedly very specific) natural lighting conditions too.



-Remember that M105 *never* loses its cut; thus the residue you buff off is quite abrasive. Think "micromarring".



-M105 requires a *CLEAN* pad to work well.



-[Insert general "study up on the KMB!" advice here...]



-Sometimes M205 can struggle a bit to correct what M105 leaves, especially if you use the M205 with a too-mild pad.



-M205 can leave some serious oils behind, which can give a pseudo-hologram effect.
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Good post. Thank you for the info.
 
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