'08 STS-V Major Paint Correction: Rasky's Auto Detailing

tonysandiego

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Picked up the wife's new 330Ci yesterday and last night after going over it with some Z6, I noticed a couple of bird poop marks and a few water spots. I had stoped by the dealer on Tues. afternoon and saw the car for the first time. They said it came in earlier that day. I noticed the bird crap on the roof and asked the sales manager to make sure that it got cleaned off right away so it didn't burn in. I guess the high paid detailer that they have went out and hosed off the car but didn't dry it, because Wed. morning when I stoped by, the water spots were there. I didn't think much of it and would take care of them when I got it home. I wouldn't dare let them any where near our new black baby with a buffer!



I tried soaking a paper towel with vinegar and letting it sit for about 10 in. then wiping down with Z6. No luck! Tried diluted Z7. No luck! Tried some Wizards Finish Cut polish. No luck!



WHAT CAN I DO???????
 
Water spots are tough, but vinegar should remove them. Be patient it might take some time. Follow up with your favorite wax or zaino away!
 
Be sure to immediately write the dealer a letter, documenting what happended, just in case the problem does not clear up. You want to have something showing that the problem existed on delivery of the car and that you had gone the extra mile by pointing out the problem to the dealer ahead of time.
 
Can you go in to detail on how you would use the vinegar please, ie. soak rag and let it sit for X min. vs. wet rag and wipe lightly until water mark is gone vs. spray vinegar mist and let soak for X then use damp cotton cloth.....



You get the idea. I tried vinegar but not sure that I'm doing it the right way. Thanks
 
Use

household white vinegar full strength. This is acetic acid and will

loosen and remove the mineral deposits and not harm the paint surface. Most of the time,

the water spot etching you see is simply the hardened mineral deposit,

giving the illusion of etching into the paint. When these

mineral deposits harden. They become really tough and hard to remove. The trick is to not give them a chance to harden.



I would soak a thin cotton towel or tshirt in vinegar and saturate the area. If the spots do not remove quickly, let it sit on the effected areas for a few minutes till it looses up the deposit. As a last resort, try an abrasive product, but like I said.......A LAST RESORT.



Good luck
 
DK's tip is right on. Make sure that you let the vinegar sit on the area for a bit. You may need to try this method a few times to get the results you want. Laters.
 
The owner of this 469-hp beauty contacted me late last fall after purchasing this car used. Since he was going to be storing it for the winter we decided to wait until this spring to perform the paint correction.

Upon inspection heavy swirls and dealer installed holograms were apparent on all panels. The owner and I agreed on a 2-step correction which should have removed the holograms and most the swirls. However, lately I have come across too many vehicles which appear to only need a 2-step correction, and I ended up getting burned by those nasty SHRIDS. Because of this I wanted to make the owner aware of the possibility that they may appear once I started the correction. For those of you who may not know what SHRIDS are, it?s basically my twist on the RIDS, or Random Isolated Deep Scratches. SHRIDS are the same as RIDS except they cannot be seen when the finish is so cover in swirls. Because of this I?ve coined them Sneaky Hidden Random Isolated Deep Scratches?.SHRIDS! :)

On top of all the swirls and holograms The owner had a few areas of concern which required a little wet sanding. I wasn?t able to fully remove them, but I improved them to the point where they could hardly be seen.

Now lets see some pics! Here is the car as it arrived.
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Here is one outside after a thorough wash using CG Citrus Wash and Clear with the help of some P21S TAW to remove any wax or fillers the dealer may have applied....looks great under the overcast sky doesn't it???
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Still look great??? :)
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Buffer holograms car really be seen here
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Every panels was loaded with swirls and holograms!
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Another shot using the Brinkmann Dual Xenon light
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The passenger side fender was one of the areas of concern the owner had. It appeared someone had been leaning up against the car and had either a belt on or some other hard object that kept rubbing against the paint.
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Zoomed in a little closer you can get a better idea of the damage. Most of the scratches were actually on the sharp bend of the fender which is never an easy area to correct since it very easy to rub through.
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First I took several PTG reading to see how much paint I had to work with. One of the other areas on the roof had actually been worked on once already and readings around it were only in the 100 micron range so I was far less aggressive on that area. Here we can see some healthy reading in the upper 130 micron range.
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I carefully sanded the area with 2000 grit Meguiars paper by hand and checked my PTG readings often. Once I got to a point were I was happy with the result I follow up with some 3000 grit Meguiars paper and took a final reading.

A total of only 7 microns were removed. Since I was sanding on an edge I figured it best not to push my luck. ;)
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Anytime you attempt to polish a car you should always do a test spot first to make sure your process is going to have the desired effect you are after. Since I already had a plan of attack I started my test spot out by using Meguiars M105 on the PCXP using an orange LC 5.5" pad. After doing two buffing cycles it was apparent that a 2-step correction was not going to be enough....those nasty SHRIDS have struck again! :(

Here is my test panel taped up. You can see both side still have heavy swirls.
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After two buffing cycles using M105 all the swirls were now gone, but the SHRIDS are now clear as day! Because there were so many of them I simply could not let a car go out of my shop looking this way and my 2-step correction just turned into a 4-step correction.

Here is a 50/50 shot after the M105. As you can see there was a huge improvement in the finish but the SHIRDS are very noticeable.
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Zoomed in closer on the corrected side you can better see them
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Here is that same section after using M105 on a rotary polsiher equipped with a heavy cut wool pad and then followed with M105 on the PCXP with an orange LC pad. Some faint micro marring can be seen which was removed in the proceeding buffing steps.
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Here is a pic I took to show some cool little wool pads I picked up but I also wanted to show a good way to safely polish the lower edge of the deck lid. If I were to polish this area with the deck lid closed you could possible damage the bumper cover if you are not careful...If the side of the buffing pad or backing plate were to touch the bumper cover it could easily damage the finish! This method puts a large distance between the two perpendicular surfaces and also allows you better access for polishing.
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The final correction process I decided upon after doing my test spots was as follows:

  1. M105 on the rotary equipped with a heavy wool cutting pad. Polisher was run between 1200-1500rpms
  2. M105 on the PCXP equipped with 5.5" LC Hydro cyan pads on a speed of 6
  3. M205 on the PCXP equipped with 5.5" LC white pads on a speed of 6
  4. 3M Ultrafina on the rotary equipped with a 6.5" LC blue pads. Polishing was done by spreading out the polish at 900rpms, polishing for several passes at 1800rpms followed by another pass or two at 900rpms


Paint protection was done using Blackfire Wet-Diamond, glass was cleaned with Meguiars D120 and polished using KAIO, tires dressed with Meguiars Hyper Dressing at 4:1, stainless exhaust tips were clean with M105 and #0000 steel wool, and the headlamps/tail lights were polished using M105/M205 on the PCXP.
 
Anyone ready to see some finished pics? :)


Sorry, no sun pics were possible :(
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Some cool reflection shots :)
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Halogen shots
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Fender shot that had the deep scratches
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Brinkmann Dual Xenon shots
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As always, thank you for taking the time to view my work! :thx


Rasky
 
Very nice. Great job! When you have the trunklid halfway up to avoid scratching the bumper, do you have any problems with the lid moving while working the rotary?
 
Very nice. Great job! When you have the trunklid halfway up to avoid scratching the bumper, do you have any problems with the lid moving while working the rotary?

Thanks buddy!

No moving of the trunk lid with the Menzerna bottle holding it open. Some trunks or lift gates that have shocks assisting with the opening can require a little more effort/thinking to prop open though. ;)
 
Nice, I found the 'SHRIDS' doing a BMW two-step. Got the swirls, but my old UDM wouldn't touch what was beneath. Owner was happy regardless, it looked way better, but those underlying scratches bug me.

Great work on the Caddy.
 
Nice, I found the 'SHRIDS' doing a BMW two-step. Got the swirls, but my old UDM wouldn't touch what was beneath. Owner was happy regardless, it looked way better, but those underlying scratches bug me.

Great work on the Caddy.

Thanks Indy!

Yeah, My PCXP wasn't touching them either. I actually had to go over most the car several times with the wool pad to remove all of them.....dusty work! :(


Quality correction as usual, nice work!

Thanks David! :)

That was a lot of good work on a tough color........:notworthy:


Well done.......:thumbup:


Thank you! :wizard:
 
Nice work Rasky! I used the ole lifted trunk method just this weekend on a BMW 328 4 door (Schwarz 2). Great idea.
 
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