00' yukon w/ MENZERNA

Wes Man

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went to visit my dad the other day and noticed with the halogen that he had some pretty bad scratching on the sides and hood. my brother got him MENZERNA intense and a new orange pad for christmas. we went at it to see what we could come up with. tell me what you think.



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my dad thought he was doing good with his expensive boars hair brush but what was found was heartwrenching. was started with Griots shampoo with the boars hair, followed by clay magic. we used the PC on 6 with an orange pad and MENZERNA intense. we finished up with gold class liquid wax. everything looked great. we took pictures and went on about our day. it rained later that week so he washed it again, the same(griots, boars hair). i pulled the halogen out again and the horizontal scratches were back, just like the before shots. i didn't beleive it.:down
 
BHB's are capable of washing without any marring - he might just need a new brush or different technique. Accumulator has a great writeup on washing with a BHB somewhere on Autopia.
 
Wes Man- Nice job clearing up that marring. The clear on my '00 GM is pretty hard, so you did great working by PC :xyxthumbs



Any mention of BHBs is likely to get some comments from me :D so...



Yeah, assuming the BHB in question isn't contaminated with adhesive on the bristles, it's a matter of wash technique. But IMO most people would do at least as much damage with a mitt anyhow. The "problem" with a BHB is that it holds lots of shampoo and feels so gentle...so people tend to press too hard and cover too large an area before rinsing it out. Another thing that can happen is marring from residual dirt- used gently (especially with only one pass), a BHB might leave dirt behind that will then cause marring during the drying.



A simple improvement to start with is to just "jiggle" the BHB across the surface, and rinse it out a lot more often. When you jiggle it (as opposed to the usual, big long swiping motions), any marring will be short little scratches, and a 1/4" scratch won't show like a 4" long one will. And don't press so hard that you bend the tips of the bristles very much. I've seen people press so hard that they're rubbing the *sides* of the bristles against the paint.



Of course there's always...[INSERT Accumulator's usual lecture on the wonders of a BHB/foamgun combo here] ;)
 
Accumulator, i really appreciate your response and thanks for clearing that up. i don't think this is going to discourage him from using the brush(to expensive to sit in the closet), but i am definatly going to forward your comments to him and tell him to keep a heads up on it. i will keep you posted.
 
Very dramatic improvement! :)



I agree with Accumulator, most people really bear down when using brushes-just drive by any coin-op car wash and watch people wash their cars!
 
Wes man- I learned from *my* father (and my non-Autopian friends) that the best we can do is often steer them away from the *worst* mistakes they're making and then accept that they'll only do things "correctly" to a certain extent.



Before I got all foamgun-centric about my washes, I did get a *little* marring when I washed with my BHB. Again, no worse than I got with mitts and on silver I had to *really* work to see it and it'd only show up in certain types of light...so BHBs can do an OK job for normal people using normal techniques. Since I don't see your dad wanting to wrestle with the foamgun (in one hand, the BHB in another...sheesh it's a pain even for me), just stressing the gentle jiggling and frequent rinsing is about all you can probably do.
 
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