Car shampoo comparison..need opinions

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jlineman

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Here is what I am asking about. Cleaning power, suds and value for the money when factoring in the above.

Chemical Guys Maxi Suds ll
16 oz/$7.29 and 128 oz/$20.79
Takes 1.5 oz/4 gal

Chemical Guys GlossWorkz Paint Cleanser
16 oz/$10.39 and 128oz/$34.30
Takes 4 oz/4 gal

Optimum Car Wash
32 oz/11.99 and 128 oz/$29.99
Takes 4oz/4gal
The Optimum and Glossworkz paint cleanser both take 4oz/gal but the price is only competitive in the 128oz size unless you but the 32 oz Optimum
The Maxi ll is considerably cheaper and only uses 1.5 oz/4gal

I don't have any of these and the Maxi ll based on price and amt/gal would seem to be the best value BUT I am asking if anyone has used these and wants to give an opinion before I but anything. During good weather I am washing 2 vehicles a week so cost is certainly a factor but I want a good shampoo at the same time. I'm really not sure if I'll see an difference between any of these?
 
Of the offerings you listed the CG Maxi would certainly be the best value. I use a lot of different shampoos depending on my mood but for a good quality, high value wash Meg's Gold Class can't be beat, IMO. Available OTC all over the place, no shipping.. I see it around $14/gallon or so.

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I made this about three months ago:

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Great chart Maximus. Price per use is the most important way to look at cost. That combined with how much you like the shampoo decide what to use. I'm sticking to my Supernatural Shampoo.
 
That is one heck of a chart!! Thanks. I posted on several forums and interestingly enough Meg's Gold Class and Duragloss were mentioned in both as being a good shampoos and available locally. I might have to try them before I order on line and pay shipping.
Thanks everyone.
 
Maybe GC has improved since I last used it several years ago but since I have to order pretty much all of my supplies online any way, I just include shampoo.
 
jlineman said:
Here is what I am asking about. Cleaning power, suds and value for the money when factoring in the above.

Chemical Guys Maxi Suds ll
16 oz/$7.29 and 128 oz/$20.79
Takes 1.5 oz/4 gal

Chemical Guys GlossWorkz Paint Cleanser
16 oz/$10.39 and 128oz/$34.30
Takes 4 oz/4 gal

Optimum Car Wash
32 oz/11.99 and 128 oz/$29.99
Takes 4oz/4gal
The Optimum and Glossworkz paint cleanser both take 4oz/gal but the price is only competitive in the 128oz size unless you but the 32 oz Optimum
The Maxi ll is considerably cheaper and only uses 1.5 oz/4gal

I don't have any of these and the Maxi ll based on price and amt/gal would seem to be the best value BUT I am asking if anyone has used these and wants to give an opinion before I but anything. During good weather I am washing 2 vehicles a week so cost is certainly a factor but I want a good shampoo at the same time. I'm really not sure if I'll see an difference between any of these?
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i though maxi suds was 1oz/1gal and glossworkz 1oz/4-5gals
 
You are correct on the GlossWorkZ, I was wrong. The GlossWorkz. is 1 oz to 4-5 gals. However the Maxi Suds ll is "a cap full per gal." I measured and a cap full is around 10ml. which figures out to be just shy of 1.5 oz/ 4 gal. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for catching that. If you are thinking about the CG Citrus Wash it is 1 oz/gal IF you are going to use it to strip the car of sealant and waxes.
 
MarcHarris said:
Great chart Maximus. Price per use is the most important way to look at cost. That combined with how much you like the shampoo decide what to use. I'm sticking to my Supernatural Shampoo.
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Not to threadjack, but Marc it is very good to see you over here. I have seen your post over on Camaro5, and bought some products that I love based on your write-ups.
 
jlineman said:
You are correct on the GlossWorkZ, I was wrong. The GlossWorkz. is 1 oz to 4-5 gals. However the Maxi Suds ll is "a cap full per gal." I measured and a cap full is around 10ml. which figures out to be just shy of 1.5 oz/ 4 gal. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for catching that. If you are thinking about the CG Citrus Wash it is 1 oz/gal IF you are going to use it to strip the car of sealant and waxes.
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in citrus was clear, it says 1/2oz per 2 gallon on label, but the website description is 1 capfull to 4-5gallons, therefore i say when CG say capfull use 1 ounce. i could be wrong, but they really should say the exact amount instead of saying a capfull

10ml must be a small cap. must be like the ones from a water bottle......
 
jlineman said:
You are correct on the GlossWorkZ, I was wrong. The GlossWorkz. is 1 oz to 4-5 gals. However the Maxi Suds ll is "a cap full per gal." I measured and a cap full is around 10ml. which figures out to be just shy of 1.5 oz/ 4 gal. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for catching that. If you are thinking about the CG Citrus Wash it is 1 oz/gal IF you are going to use it to strip the car of sealant and waxes.
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If you ask directly, they say 1 oz / gallon for the Max-Suds but then it can be as cryptic as Autogeek's description (1 to 2 ounces to a bucket).

As I posted elsewhere, Optimum is a nice choice (cost and performance wise). CG at 1 ounce and even 0.5 ounce worked ok to me. CG is more love or hate type shampoo by some and I wonder why.
 
Optimum is one of my favorites. The directions do say 1oz per gallon, but Dr G has said that 1/2 oz per gallon is all that is required. They however suggest 1oz per gallon for hard water conditions. It also fits the suds, cleaning power, and cost effective catagories that you asked about.

Another that fits that criteria is Ultima Paint Guard Wash. It is one to check out. About 50 cents a wash and it is definately a top notch product!
 
qaz393 said:
in citrus was clear, it says 1/2oz per 2 gallon on label, but the website description is 1 capfull to 4-5gallons, therefore i say when CG say capfull use 1 ounce. i could be wrong, but they really should say the exact amount instead of saying a capfull

10ml must be a small cap. must be like the ones from a water bottle......
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I don't understand when you say "in citrus was clear" Which shampoo are you referring to? I'm not trying to bicker only to clarify. One of my friends has both and I quote directly from the label. CG Citris Wash says " 1 CAP FULL per 5 gallons for a superior wash" However if you want to strip everything, including wax ..." As a paintwork cleanser..1 oz per gallon"

The label on CG MAXl Suds ll says..." Mix one cap full of product with one gallon of water"

Since the label doesn't mention a specific cap, one would assume they mean the cap on the bottle. The cap on the gallon bottle on each of these holds 10 ml. Times that by how much water you are going to put in the bucket. I usually don't fill my 5 gal bucket completely and have it marked off per each gallon level. SO..in my case if I fill to the 4 gallon mark, that would be 40 ml per 4 gallons or just under 1.5 oz.

They probably say "one cap full" thinking it's easier to pour that amt in the cap, rather than go get a measuring glass. With the MAXl Suds I don't think a little more or less would make a difference. BUT with the Citrus Wash, to much of that stuff will strip the car. I've seen him strip one before detailing and the Citrus Wash works fantastic! It's a great product.

Hope that helps and hope we are talking about the same CG shampoos.
 
Iomcamaro said:
Not to threadjack, but Marc it is very good to see you over here. I have seen your post over on Camaro5, and bought some products that I love based on your write-ups.
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:bigups
I'm sure you'll see me around. If you need anything from me, I'm easy to find.
 
Bunky said:
If you ask directly, they say 1 oz / gallon for the Max-Suds but then it can be as cryptic as Autogeek's description (1 to 2 ounces to a bucket).

As I posted elsewhere, Optimum is a nice choice (cost and performance wise). CG at 1 ounce and even 0.5 ounce worked ok to me. CG is more love or hate type shampoo by some and I wonder why.
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I took a permanent marker and marked each gallon level on the inside of my 5 gal bucket. I have found out that I will usually fill it up to the 4 gal level. I answered another post but for clarification, the label on MAXl SUDS ll says
"one cap full per gallon" The cap on the gallon bottle holds 10ml. For 4 gallons that would be 40ml which is just shy of 1.5 oz. OR as you say (1 to 2 oz per bucket) would be close. I don't think this is rocket science and a little more or less can't hurt.
 
Dr Oldz;396805]Optimum is one of my favorites. The directions do say 1oz per gallon, but Dr G has said that 1/2 oz per gallon is all that is required. They however suggest 1oz per gallon for hard water conditions. It also fits the suds, cleaning power, and cost effective catagories that you asked about.
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Would using more optimum car wash, say 1 oz per gallon shorten the life span of waxes or sealants?
 
jlineman said:
I don't understand when you say "in citrus was clear" Which shampoo are you referring to? I'm not trying to bicker only to clarify. One of my friends has both and I quote directly from the label. CG Citris Wash says " 1 CAP FULL per 5 gallons for a superior wash" However if you want to strip everything, including wax ..." As a paintwork cleanser..1 oz per gallon"

The label on CG MAXl Suds ll says..." Mix one cap full of product with one gallon of water"

Since the label doesn't mention a specific cap, one would assume they mean the cap on the bottle. The cap on the gallon bottle on each of these holds 10 ml. Times that by how much water you are going to put in the bucket. I usually don't fill my 5 gal bucket completely and have it marked off per each gallon level. SO..in my case if I fill to the 4 gallon mark, that would be 40 ml per 4 gallons or just under 1.5 oz.

They probably say "one cap full" thinking it's easier to pour that amt in the cap, rather than go get a measuring glass. With the MAXl Suds I don't think a little more or less would make a difference. BUT with the Citrus Wash, to much of that stuff will strip the car. I've seen him strip one before detailing and the Citrus Wash works fantastic! It's a great product.

Hope that helps and hope we are talking about the same CG shampoos.
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i mean citrus wash clear, the product label says 1oz per gallon and website description says 1 capfull to 4-5gallons
 
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