question regarding ultimate compound ?

RyansAutoDetail

Weekend Warrior
just grabbed a bottle of ultimate compound and i am curious about what polish and or second step polish should be used following use ?

what is everyone using after doing a car with this product, right to LSP or do you use something like poorboys pro polish or an SSR1 or other product ?

looking for ideas, it would be nice to see meguiars come up with an ultimate polish to be used with the ultimate compound and then go to your ultimate quick wax and then ultimate detailer and your good to go with a full ultimate treatment for budget concious jobs !
 
I've read folks following up with SwirlX. Someone at another site compared this as the closest thing to the M105/M205 combo that OTC users could get.
 
I've read folks following up with SwirlX. Someone at another site compared this as the closest thing to the M105/M205 combo that OTC users could get.

Yup, you nailed it on the head. Ultimate Compound is "similar" to M105, and SwirlX is "similar" to M205.
 
yeah i have M105, ultimate compound, half bottle SSR 2.5, PB pro polish and menzerna finishing glaze ...

i guess i still need to get M205/swirlX

and assuming after the swirlX i would go right to a LSP correct .
 
yeah i have M105, ultimate compound, half bottle SSR 2.5, PB pro polish and menzerna finishing glaze ...

i guess i still need to get M205/swirlX

and assuming after the swirlX i would go right to a LSP correct .

On most paints, yes. On some softer paints, you can benefit by following with a very fine finishing polish such as Menzerna PO85RD or 3M Ultrafine.
 
...it would be nice to see meguiars come up with an ultimate polish to be used with the ultimate compound and then go to your ultimate quick wax and then ultimate detailer and your good to go with a full ultimate treatment for budget concious jobs !
Valid point and would seem to be in keeping with how Meguiar's has family product lines for OTC products. They also have the Ultimate Wash & Wax. Of course this probably wouldn't be for a budget conscious jobs as you're talking about a 2-step polish + LSP, but would be nice for the serious consumer interested in making their own ride(s) look their best.

I've read folks following up with SwirlX. Someone at another site compared this as the closest thing to the M105/M205 combo that OTC users could get.
Interesting, had not read that comparison before.
 
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Hi Folks,

I have not been on here much lately b/c i've been so busy detailing but thought i'd post up my experience using Meg's Ultimate Compound(UC) followed up with SwirlX using a Porter Cable 7424 with LC Orange and White pads for those of you are on the ropes about venturing out and getting a machine and polishes for your own vehicles. I feel from my experience with this combination of products and equipment beginners can do this and not feel the worry of damaging their paint.

First and foremost I typically use Meg's #105 and #205 on LC Orange and White pads respectively but have been reading some great things about UC followed up with SwirlX on Autopia.org/ so thought since I can go down to my local auto parts store and pick it up.....why not give it a try. UC is Meg's OTC version of #105 but in my opinion not as aggresive as #105 if compared side by side on paint....but again its OTC and $20.00 cheaper for those on a budget these days.

The car it was used on was a Black 06 Audi A3 that was for the most part taken care of but not washed and dried properly as you will see in the picture below when direct light is applied (camera flash and work lamps). The owner is a good friend of mine and was eager to give UC and SwirlX a try first to see what we got.....and then when needed move onto #205 and a finishing polish if we didn't get the results we were looking for with UC.

Passenger door clay barred and ready for correction. Swirl and Scratch City
passenger_door_before.jpg


After one pass of UC on a LC Orange Pad followed up with one pass with SwirlX on a LC White pad. No LSP applied yet.
passenger_after.jpg


Needless to say I was shocked at how well an OTC product from Meguiar's worked with just one pass. To give those of you who are new to detailing an idea of what a pass is in my terms, I do the following:

Once polish is spread onto surface using speed 4 I turn up the PC to speed 6 applying 10-12 pounds of pressure (use your bathroom scale to get an idea of the pressure needed) and begin to work the product in horizontally overlapping 50% of the area I just did. Once I have gone over it horizontally I then go vertically applying the same method overlapping my area by 50%. I repeat the above steps a total of six times (3 horizontally, 3 vertically) all in about a 3 - 5 minute span of time. This allowed UC to break down correctly and as it did I let up on the pressure I was applying to the surface.

Few more before and after shots after one pass of UC and SwirlX:
Before
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After (apologize for the funky angle but if you see the passenger headlight below in the lower left hand corner you'll see its thse same side of the hood as in the before pic)
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I hope you guys starting out in detailing found this useful and motivating to get out there and try doing corrections on your own vehicle using the tools and products above. Its a great start and through research and experience you can move on to better products and see even better results.

Thanks for reading
 
already ordered swirlX on ebay ... sigh $17 incl shipping from michigan to ontario ...

since swirlX isnt sold in canada from what ive seen nowhere has it i ordered it online
 
I just did a friends Mustang with megs UC and finished with megs NXT and it came out just great. Note the paint was not in bad shape to begin with.
 
I just did a friends Mustang with megs UC and finished with megs NXT and it came out just great. Note the paint was not in bad shape to begin with.

In my experience with NXT it does a good deal of filling/hiding. Depending on the application this might not be a bad thing. Just be cautious of that.

And an FYI on the Megs 105/205. Locally O'Reillys and Advanced Auto Parts sell 105. One of the Advanced Auto also sells 205 which I found interesting. If you need 205 in a hurry Advanced might be able to get it pretty quick.

-scott
 
Meguiars Ultimate Compound has been around for a few years...

When it first came out, it was billed as the user friendly version of Meguiars 105, with not as much horsepower as 105..

You can do a great job with it using a PC, as you have already shown in the pics above..

Dan F
 
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