Sealant test over a Glaze base

[cwcad]

The day started out very well for me. I have anxiously awaited my bottle of Danase Wet Glaze to do a test of this product in conjunction with a few of my favorite sealants. It was fun analyzing, evaluating, prepping, correcting, and applying products to my vehicle.

Danase Wet Glaze is a new product(to me) that claims to be a glaze that can be layered, work as moderate protection by itself, and work under most any sealant or wax without effecting the sealants durability.

I plan on testing the durability of the glaze by itself as well as three different sealants on the hood of my truck.

Here is the prep process:

S&W wipedown with MF towels
Menzerna PO 106ff with rotary and new 6.5 in.Erasure orange light cutting pad

Danase Wet Glaze applied with PC at speed 3 and 6.5 in. red Erasure finishing pad

All sealants were applied by hand with individualcotton applicators

As soon as I pulled the tape I found the contrast between the Glaze and NXT 2.0 very noticeable. I had read that NXT 2.0 would darken the paint. This shows that it was correct information.

My favorite look was produced by LS. There was a noticeable difference to Zaino as well. LS darkens and warms the paint compared to Zaino's optically clear reflective look. I happen to prefer LS but like the Zaino look as well.

Since my wife is the official unbiased tester of all of my testing I asked her to compare the different products based on her view and touch.

Zaino happened to be the winner in the slickness of each product. LS second, Danase Wet Glaze third, and NXT2.0.

She also picked Zaino as her favorite for looks. She said it was shinier. She did not make any comment about darkening of the paint. To be honest it is ever so slight and I was not abale to notice any darkening until the tape was pulled. It is subtle yet in the pictures I see it is a distinct difference.

This morning I awoke to heavy dew and the differences seems to show through with the dew. Unfortunately, the camera does not show it as dramatic as it is in real life but there is a difference in my opinion.

I will continue to update on looks and durability. I would welcome any questions or comments.

 

[Stephan]

Excellent post and nicely layed out detailed steps.

I didn't think glaze in itself offered and type of protection...so I find the Danase Glaze interesting and appealing. I personally prefer a deeper color to my paint as opposed to the shiney bright look.

I have never heard of Erasure pads...do you have a pick or a link? How do they compare to some of the other pads out there.

Once again nice work:bigups

 

[black bart]

Did you try NXT by itself and then over the glaze to compare the two.
What I'm wondering about is how much did the glaze improve if any.

If I'm reading this right you are comparing 4 products to see which looked best over the glaze but how would each product look on it's own as to over the glaze.

I think the one that looks the best will always be a personal thing I know several that really like the looks of Zaino but to me it has a sterile look and a quality carnuba like PS has a darker look with much more depth.
It is in the eye of the beholder.

A lot of people can not see the difference two years ago I took my car to a local car show and I had 3 LSP's on it. I ask people to tell me if they could tell where one product stopped and another began.

Several people looked at it and not one could actually tell me.
Some told me where they thought but they were wrong so not everyone can really tell the subtle difference.
Thanks for this write up I'm really interested in trying a quality glaze that will work with a sealant.

I don't want to reveal something that I should not but a little birdie dropped me a tip that a well knowin product will have a new glaze hitting the market real soon :bigups

 

[budman3]

There is a definite line where the tape was, that's for sure. Thanks for taking the time to write in detail which product did what. It'll be interesting to see how long the glaze by itself lasts compared to the taped areas as well as the traditional LSPs.

 

[CharlesW]

What was your opinion of the "filling" of the glaze?
Did it do what you were hoping for in that area?

 

[Beemerboy]

What was your opinion of the "filling" of the glaze?
Did it do what you were hoping for in that area?

I would be interested in this answer as well...I use glaze for two reason....POP on the paint and its filling capabilities

 

[cwcad]

What was your opinion of the "filling" of the glaze?
Did it do what you were hoping for in that area?

Here is the honest answer. NO... The hood clean up so well that there was nothing to hide. All that was left on the hood were the chips in the paint from rocks. I looked real hard an long, though. Just a few days earlier I could not get the same correction on a different area of the truck.

Aside from being in a different part of the truck I used the same products and machines. I did use new pads from Erasure though.

 

[blucpe]

nice writeup, thanks for taking the time to put it together. i can gef. see the darkening you're talking about in the pics. i noticed it when i used the old formula nxt, like you i;m not wild about the sterile look of sealants, i live with it a couple of days and then i put a xxxx on top, it just gives that something extra.

 

[cwcad]

Did you try NXT by itself and then over the glaze to compare the two.
What I'm wondering about is how much did the glaze improve if any.

If I'm reading this right you are comparing 4 products to see which looked best over the glaze but how would each product look on it's own as to over the glaze.

I think the one that looks the best will always be a personal thing I know several that really like the looks of Zaino but to me it has a sterile look and a quality carnuba like PS has a darker look with much more depth.
It is in the eye of the beholder.

A lot of people can not see the difference two years ago I took my car to a local car show and I had 3 LSP's on it. I ask people to tell me if they could tell where one product stopped and another began.

Several people looked at it and not one could actually tell me.
Some told me where they thought but they were wrong so not everyone can really tell the subtle difference.
Thanks for this write up I'm really interested in trying a quality glaze that will work with a sealant.

I don't want to reveal something that I should not but a little birdie dropped me a tip that a well knowin product will have a new glaze hitting the market real soon :bigups

I have NXT 2.0 on the roof and tonneau cover of my truck. It looked fine. My eye was not able to discern any darkening of the paint because it all looked the same. It did look good. No complaints from me. Aside from the texture of the product which seems to make it hard for me to get a thin strip applied to the paint surface when using a foam pad by hand. I know it is operator error. I would kick the operators butt but my legs are to short.:notme:

Black Bart, I think that you are correct that it is personal preference. Admittedly my wife prefers Zaino but in the test she did not know which was which. She gave me her honest opinion of what was slickest and which look that she prefered.

I only tested three sealants with the fourth being DWG because it has been prurported to be moderately successful as a stand alone product.

As far as filling abilities or enhancing the shine...well I guess I will have to put that comment in abience because I cannot give a truthful definitive answer.

 

[black bart]

CWCAD Thanks for the reply.
I'm really interested in this topic I have three Black vehicles and I'm too anal about keeping them looking flawless.

I need to find something that has some light filling and not detract from the appearance.

Last fall I repainted my Corvette because I had polished it so much that the clear was thin.
after paying for 8 coats of clear on it I'm not in a hurry to grind it off again :surrender

 

[Fishpimp]

CWCAD
I need to find something that has some light filling and not detract from the appearance.

Last fall I repainted my Corvette because I had polished it so much that the clear was thin.
after paying for 8 coats of clear on it I'm not in a hurry to grind it off again :surrender

What were you polishing with and how long had you owned your car before the clear started to thin. Also how did you know out of curiosity. Paint thickness gauge or something?

 

[black bart]

What were you polishing with and how long had you owned your car before the clear started to thin. Also how did you know out of curiosity. Paint thickness gauge or something?

The car is a 89 Corvette and I bought it in 99
I have used a lot of different polishes on it but by far the most would be #80 and Menzerna FPII applied with a PC.
I could tell that the clear coat was thin by the color.
I guess I have a good eye for that sort of thing because I can look at a car and tell where the paint is getting really thin before I polish through the clear.
I have read on some forums that you can not harm your paint with a PC.
Maybe you won't harm it but you can completely remove it over time.

I see post on Corvette Forum about how the PC can not correct serious flaws but it is great for minor swirls.
Well if it is capable of removing enough paint to correct a minor flaw then it is capable of removing paint and if you polish long enough it will remove a deep scratch it just takes much longer than a rotary but believe me it can be done.

I want to get a good glaze that will hide very minor flaws so I don't have to keep polishing all the time and then spend thousands of $$$$$$$ to have the paint put back on so I can start polishing it off again.:crazy:

 

[cwcad]

Well I had some personal business to attend to last week so I did not post my findings on this test that I have going on the hood of my Black truck. I took the pictures of the hood last Wednesday but was not able to post the pictures until now.

I had some dust accumulation on the hood since I have done nothing during the time between initial application and the pictures that I am posting today. I used several plush MF towels and S&W(need I mention that S&W is my favorite product...?) wipedown. You will notice the marks left by the tape that are still showing but it is nice to have because it really delineates the different products on the hood for my testing purposes.

I found it interesting how the dust accumulates on the different products. The heaviest accumulation was on the NXT 2.0. The Liquid Souveran was the next heaviest accumulation. LS was on the upper left side of the picture. I saw less accumulation on the bottom half of the versus the top half of the hood. Am not sure if it is the products or if it is the area. It is just an observation and am not saying wether it is bad or good. It is just the way it turned out and I thought it was worth mentioning.

The S&W cleaned up the area real nice and this is what it left.

The surface of the hood is still relatively marr free as far as I am concerned. I made a trip in the rain the other day and thought that the marring was excessive when I returned and looked at the area in the driveway. I have a lot of chips that are showing but after the wipedown the surface in all of the test areas are equal in marring and smoothness. I could not discern any difference in any of the products as far as smoothness or darkening. Beading could not be measured since it stopped raining just before I returned home and it has not rained since.

My impression is the glaze is holding up well. I am disappointed in Zaino in as much as I had hoped that it would be a stand out versus the other products. I am surprised that LS is holding up so well from my previous experience with the product. NXT 2.0 is showing promise as well.

 

[JaredPointer]

Seems like the dust collection might have something to do with oils or something in the product. Just a guess.

Also, what is it about the Zaino that is disappointing you?

 

[Stephan]

Great post...I am interested in dusting as well. The back of my Murano is a dust magnet and I have been trying to find any type of product that would help to eliminate that static attraction to dust. So its interesting to me to see that different products have varrying results.

 

[cwcad]

Also, what is it about the Zaino that is disappointing you?

To be honest I thought that the feel of the Zaino line would be slicker to the touch than the other products being tested. I also thought that the shine would be more dicernable after two weeks. Don't misunderstand I still think that the product itself is a good product but amoungst the products tested I do not find it to be better than anything else that is on the hood. All seem to be fairing very well. I fully expect the beading to last longer than any of the other products on the hood.

 

[JaredPointer]

To be honest I thought that the feel of the Zaino line would be slicker to the touch than the other products being tested. I also thought that the shine would be more dicernable after two weeks. Don't misunderstand I still think that the product itself is a good product but amoungst the products tested I do not find it to be better than anything else that is on the hood. All seem to be fairing very well. I fully expect the beading to last longer than any of the other products on the hood.

Haha, just kidding. I appreciate the unbiased and honest feedback. Do you think putting it over the glaze might have had something to do with it?

 

[CharlesW]

I am disappointed in Zaino in as much as I had hoped that it would be a stand out versus the other products.

Also, what is it about the Zaino that is disappointing you?

To be honest I thought that the feel of the Zaino line would be slicker to the touch than the other products being tested. I also thought that the shine would be more dicernable after two weeks. Don't misunderstand I still think that the product itself is a good product but amoungst the products tested I do not find it to be better than anything else that is on the hood. All seem to be fairing very well. I fully expect the beading to last longer than any of the other products on the hood.

I haven't said much in this thread until now, but since you guys are bashing Zaino, I have to speak up.

Obviously you know nothing about proper prep. I mean look at that shiny hood you started with. How can you expect a product to improve the appearance?
Did you Dawn wash?
Did you use ZFX?
Did you remove it with 100% U.S. made cotton towels?
Do you have the requisite 40 coats on the hood?
Blue tape? Doesn't Zaino specify green tape when doing this type of comparison?
Did you call Sal?

Hey, it's an old Black truck, what did you expect, anyway.

Also, having a Meguiar's product in such close proximity probably compromised the Zaino results causing the whole test to be invalid!









:notme:

 

[Stephan]

I haven't said much in this thread until now, but since you guys are bashing Zaino, I have to speak up.

Obviously you know nothing about proper prep. I mean look at that shiny hood you started with. How can you expect a product to improve the appearance?
Did you Dawn wash?
Did you use ZFX?
Did you remove it with 100% U.S. made cotton towels?
Do you have the requisite 40 coats on the hood?
Blue tape? Doesn't Zaino specify green tape when doing this type of comparison?
Did you call Sal?

Hey, it's an old Black truck, what did you expect, anyway.

Also, having a Meguiar's product in such close proximity probably compromised the Zaino results causing the whole test to be invalid!









:notme:

Thats a great post...great job including several other topics all into one...

 

[cwcad]

Do you think putting it over the glaze might have had something to do with it?

It most likely does have some effect given that most Zainophiles desire synergistic products in order for it to work to its full capacity. But for my test I would think that it should not matter for I am not asking it to last six months.

I fully expect the LS to be gone in a month. It appears that the glaze will make that time period as well. NXT 2.0 will most likely be third longest and Zaino should out do all but that is pure speculation on my part.

I wanted to see if a glaze would effect durability. Only time will tell...?

I also wanted to see if a glaze really does enhance the look or take it to another level. So far that does not seem to be the case for my detailing eye. I do not see much if any filling of the swirls but as I said I happened to get what I would say is almost defect free or marr free surface prep in this case. It all looks good so it is hard for me to say that it is not worth it but I am not at this juncture a proponent of it either.