SPS Graphene Coating

DaveT435 said:
All true facts. I had no clue I would end up associated with this company other than knowing the owner. Don’t you have anything better to do than put threads under a microscope and make people look bad. Everything I’ve said it 100% true. End of conversation. Others have told me it’s pointless to reply to your remarks. I guess I’ll be adding myself to that group.
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All in the interest of quality information and transparency, nothing personal whatsoever Dave.
 
wristymanchego said:
I’d also encourage BudgetPlan to disclose if any request for a review of the product was made or if the product was sent with the intention of a public review.
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I spend a bit of time sending free stuff to other folks, but the reverse is rarity...but it has happened.

The Gloss Shop once sent me V2 of their Ceramic prior to release along with some prototypes of trim and wheel coating cuz I had enjoyed V1 so much. Those were freebies, which I mentioned when I wrote about it.

Aside from that, the cost of everything I`ve talked/wrote about has (unfortunately in some folks eyes) come outta my own pocket...no requests for public reviews.

Don`t have an agenda, don`t profit or even break even from all of this. I just remember how much I enjoyed reading others experiences back when I got into all this in 2015, perhaps someone in the same position now enjoys reading my babble or finds it marginally useful. If they do...great, if they don`t...no harm, no foul.

Heck, we were on a 6 city, 1800 mile road trip last week and I spent a good amount of time this week dropping good reviews of hotels, restaurants and experiences here and there where warranted...dunno why, really...just figr`d maybe it would be useful to someone. For sure others reviews were helpful to me on that trip.

No worries, I get the concerns...understandable.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
I spend a bit of time sending free stuff to other folks, but the reverse is rarity...but it has happened.

The Gloss Shop once sent me V2 of their Ceramic prior to release along with some prototypes of trim and wheel coating cuz I had enjoyed V1 so much. Those were freebies, which I mentioned when I wrote about it.

Aside from that, the cost of everything I`ve talked/wrote about has (unfortunately in some folks eyes) come outta my own pocket...no requests for public reviews.

Don`t have an agenda, don`t profit or even break even from all of this. I just remember how much I enjoyed reading others experiences back when I got into all this in 2015, perhaps someone in the same position now enjoys reading my babble or finds it marginally useful. If they do...great, if they don`t...no harm, no foul.

Heck, we were on a 6 city, 1800 mile road trip last week and I spent a good amount of time this week dropping good reviews of hotels, restaurants and experiences here and there where warranted...dunno why, really...just figr`d maybe it would be useful to someone. For sure others reviews were helpful to me on that trip.

No worries, I get the concerns...understandable.
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Credit to you, and a credit to the community, mate.

Some may know the history of your reviews, others don’t. Either way, disclosing how you obtained the product goes a long way to maintaining your qualitative, objective view and increases encouragement of others to do the same.

We’re all tired of being marketed to and come to forums such as these to discuss product and its uses outside the manufacturers desires.

Shilling allows manufacturers, marketers and sales people the ability to sell product in a non traditional method in places such as these. To reduce it is to increase quality and honesty of information.
 
DaveT435, as you probably already know. If you’re are associated with any distributor/reseller of detailing products where you or the company are making profits from products that you are reviewing it is not allowed on Autopia Forums. This becomes a form of free advertising and will not be permitted without your products being sold by PBMG. You may of course contact Liz regarding this issue and what is required to be come a PBMG supplier. Any future posts of yours regarding this company’s products will be removed. Any future threads regarding your review of these products will be closed. I mean no offense with this post, Autopia’s rules are very clear on this issue.
 
GearHead_1 said:
DaveT435, as you probably already know. If you’re are associated with any distributor/reseller of detailing products where you or the company are making profits from products that you are reviewing it is not allowed on Autopia Forums. This becomes a form of free advertising and will not be permitted without your products being sold by PBMG. You may of course contact Liz regarding this issue and what is required to be come a PBMG supplier. Any future posts of yours regarding this company’s products will be removed. Any future threads regarding your review of these products will be closed. I mean no offense with this post, Autopia’s rules are very clear on this issue.
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I apologize, I was clearly in the wrong. It won’t happen again.
 
Seems like this thread got blown out of proportion. None of Dave`s posts come off as pushing this product for reviews and sales to garnish a profit for himself or the company. Average Autopian`s can not even get our hands on the product. Not to mention that the posts that wristy copied and pasted makes it pretty transparent as to the relationship Dave has had with this company prior to becoming a rep. Seems like wristy was looking for something that is not there. This reminds me of the relationships I have established over the years with Avi of CarPro, Meghan of Autogeek, Nick Rutter of McKee`s 37 and the list goes on.

Shilling reminds me of Ron. I miss Ron on here.

Perhaps this thread should be locked as it has derailed off topic which is a shame.
 
“SPs graphene shipping soon”is definetly sales speak. I can get where wristy would think his trying to “schill”his products. Here’s the thing though. Its not a product that a majority of Autopians can buy.

Doesn’t make sense to promote here to a bunch of people who can’t buy it. Don’t know Dave’s intention but seems harmless. I do however have read dozens upon dozens of posts from Budget and Guz that are posted for the benefits of readers with no benefits to them. They were just offered a product and gave a review. Were you guys paid doubt it. Shoot both of them have given away products (generous guys) to help community out

I have seen nothing but wanting to do the community a favor from budget. Did you question any of his other reviews wristy. He seems to really like that kamikaze stuff bough no accusation for being a double agent for esoteric? The Guz is a Car pros man.... so is he on her hustling for car pros? I think their just genuine good guys who like what they like. Guz got me to keep my cquk 3.0 and glad he did amazing stuff.

Sometimes people get interested in stuff and post, sometimes their trying to drum up business. If Budget is good with the dude and Guz is good with the Dude..... I’ll accept that as a character reference.

Dave.... congrats on the job I hope SPS blows up with you on board. Interesting product to be sure.....




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BudgetPlan1 said:
...perhaps someone in the same position now enjoys reading my babble or finds it marginally useful. If they do...great, if they don`t..

Heck, we were on a 6 city, 1800 mile road trip last week and I spent a good amount of time this week dropping good reviews of hotels, restaurants and experiences here and there where warranted...dunno why, really...just figr`d maybe it would be useful to someone. For sure others reviews were helpful to me on that trip.

No worries, I get the concerns...understandable.
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I certainly do enjoy reading your posts!

Same here. 7 day road trip to New Mexico and my wife and I relied on reviews. I did a couple myself, but should have done more!



The Guz said:
Shilling reminds me of Ron. I miss Ron on here.
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I miss Ron as well. Sometimes I run into an old post of his and can`t help but to smile. :)

Back on topic!

This stuff seems pretty good. Thanks Budget for the [as always] great and thorough review.
 
Hey budget or Guz, In the sake of posterity, why don’t you guys top a panel or two?

Most who coat their car will usually top it, be nice to see how new coating material reacts. Budget maybe OC and Cosmic. Guz maybe Reload and another popular one (BM or SNS) if you have it.

Would be good to know as how the interact. Just a thought.

Thanks if you do or don’t.


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Coatings=crack said:
Hey budget or Guz, In the sake of posterity, why don’t you guys top a panel or two?

Most who coat their car will usually top it, be nice to see how new coating material reacts. Budget maybe OC and Cosmic. Guz maybe Reload and another popular one (BM or SNS) if you have it.

Would be good to know as how the interact. Just a thought.

Thanks if you do or don’t.


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As for myself, I`m just gonna have to continue to let this one ride `naked`. Have to say it`s quite nice to just `wash and go` and not even that carefully. A bird targeted it square on the trunk Monday afternoon and I`m gonna let that bird bomb bake in the sun for a few days and see how easily it comes off and if it leaves a mark. The hydrophobics and self-cleaning of this product are, so far, nearly equal to bare Kamikaze stuff so I`m curious to see if it holds that way unmolested/un-enhanced.

Gonna use the other half of the SPS on a friends gray metallic truck in a week or 2 (motivation is not all that great right now) so maybe hit a fender or 2 w a topper and see how it compares. The SPS is so overtly reflective, not even sure something like PA High Gloss would bring much to the table, appearance-wise.
 
Coatings=crack said:
Hey budget or Guz, In the sake of posterity, why don’t you guys top a panel or two?

Most who coat their car will usually top it, be nice to see how new coating material reacts. Budget maybe OC and Cosmic. Guz maybe Reload and another popular one (BM or SNS) if you have it.

Would be good to know as how the interact. Just a thought.

Thanks if you do or don’t.


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I’m not a topper guy so I’m not going to bother with topping it either. Plus I prefer the coatings natural aspects over the toppers influence which allows me gauge the coatings true performance. The only thing it sees is Shine Supply Throttle which leaves no protection.

It has lost some of its slickness in roughly the same amount of time as Budget has noticed. But the beading is pretty impressive as is the self cleaning effect.
 
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