Makita XOP02Z whaaaaat!

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quebert

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This looks to be the US release of the DPO600z. Which is an 18v cordless polisher that can switch between forced rotation and free spinning modes. The 600z is cordless version of their corded dual mode model. As an Eco detailer who wants to not have anything corded or a generator. This looks FANTASTIC! I`m not actually seeing it for sale anywhere yet, not on Google any ways. But, I did find the kit on one site. The few YT videos I saw about the DPO600z they love it and said it`s smoother than the 3401. I NEED to get my hands on this. The kit will be perfect as I don`t own any Makita tools so I don`t have any batteries. Only down side, maybe. Only 5mm stroke, but when I get one I`d use it 95% in forced rotation any ways. And for the times I use it to apply wax or something that doesn`t involve paint correction the 5mm stroke in free spinning mode should be fine. It comes with 5 & 6" backing plates, which is nice. I really want the Cordless 3401, but this looks like it could be near perfect.

THIS + 4 batteries + 4 slot battery charger *drooooooool*

Google Makita XOP02Tif you want to see the kit.


I can`t remember the last time I wanted something so bad.
 
Interesting.

WRR: i found it on their site as well as their corded version. Intriguing to see them available (possibly) since I am a machine nerd...
 
Sizzle Chest said:
Interesting.

WRR: i found it on their site as well as their corded version. Intriguing to see them available (possibly) since I am a machine nerd...
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I don`t want to post a link so a pic will have to do.

Nerd out Sizzle.
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Lots of great choices out there today !!! Wow !!

Well, I am not that Eco, so I will have to just make do with my Direct Drive Makita 9237C that can run years without batteries; give me stellar performance, etc., and if the power goes out, my big 66.6 Amp generator will keep my entire house/garage/ breaker panel going as well.. :) And, it is so smooth and vibration free.. :)
Dan F
 
Makita`s sure doing a bang up job here. Not a single YT video for either of these models. I know it`s new, and looks like only the one site has them for sale. But you start advertising products before they come out. I even posted in Makita`s AU YT channel on a 6000z video "is there any plans for a US release soon?" Weeks ago, not a peep back. I`ve been scouring Google weekly to check for any new info. And I just happened to stumble upon it yesterday. I don`t see how I cannot not buy this. Well, besides me being broke now and I can`t buy it. When I have $$$ I`m ordering this. This + some LC pads will probably only set me back $750`ish.

Gotta love how expensive this hobby is.
 
quebert said:
Makita`s sure doing a bang up job here. Not a single YT video for either of these models. I know it`s new, and looks like only the one site has them for sale. But you start advertising products before they come out. I even posted in Makita`s AU YT channel on a 6000z video "is there any plans for a US release soon?" Weeks ago, not a peep back. I`ve been scouring Google weekly to check for any new info. And I just happened to stumble upon it yesterday. I don`t see how I cannot not buy this. Well, besides me being broke now and I can`t buy it. When I have $$$ I`m ordering this. This + some LC pads will probably only set me back $750`ish.

Gotta love how expensive this hobby is.
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It`s the same as the PO5000C , but cordless, brushless motor , removable dust vent, and electronic speed controller (hopefully this fixes the crappy free spin mode)

If you have another battery system you can get a battery adapter from eBay.
I plan. To run the Milwaukee adapter and use a 9 or 12ah battery..maybe a Ryobi adapter ..

Has a power saving battery mode also.

The 5.5 mm throw combined with the 6800 OPM and 780RPM means it`ll outdo everything 3401/XCE and mille can do as I`ve did those tests prior with the corded models
 
I disagree. I think it`s better for the tool to be ready for production before its advertised. Flex and Rupe`s announce the tool 1-2 years before you can actually buy one. I hate that behavior from both of them
 
DBAILEY said:
I disagree. I think it`s better for the tool to be ready for production before its advertised. Flex and Rupe`s announce the tool 1-2 years before you can actually buy one. I hate that behavior from both of them
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I kind of agree with this thinking, but with research and development and then subsequent field/beta testing going on, changes and "improvements" are inevitable, so pre-production product information and advertising seems to supersede these steps. It is just a matter of timing when exactly that happens and how "secret" a manufacturer wants a detailing product or car-care chemical to be. Witness what is happening to LC (Lake Country) Power Tool`s User-Determined Orbital Stroke buffer that WAS suppose to be released this Spring 2019. Now,with the addition of a rotary function per users request, this buffer will not be available until late August or mid-September at best due to the additional engineering and development this will require. Please see the thread:
https://www.autopia.org/forums/mach...able-stroke-polishing-machine.html?highlight=

I do think that cordless buffers have a place for professional detailers, especially those who are mobile. With the advent of more powerful voltages and battery packs, they finally have the muscle to be useful and rival (or replace) their corded electrical counterparts. Come to think of it, isn`t Rupes I-brid Mini able to run with a battery OR with a cord?? I wonder how many of my fellow Autopians who have this tool use the cord to power this tool when using it in detailing.
 
Rupe`s is ridiculous though.

I think it`s the brushless motors that are making these tools possible more than the battery technology. I see new tool lines at 12v &18v. The batteries voltages are trending downward
 
nothingface5384 said:
It`s the same as the PO5000C , but cordless, brushless motor , removable dust vent, and electronic speed controller (hopefully this fixes the crappy free spin mode)

If you have another battery system you can get a battery adapter from eBay.
I plan. To run the Milwaukee adapter and use a 9 or 12ah battery..maybe a Ryobi adapter ..

Has a power saving battery mode also.

The 5.5 mm throw combined with the 6800 OPM and 780RPM means it`ll outdo everything 3401/XCE and mille can do as I`ve did those tests prior with the corded models
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Have you used the battery adapters before? I didn`t even know they existed before you posted this. I`m guessing ah to ah probably doesn`t translate exact between battery types. But a 12ah Milwaukee should vastly out perform a 6ah Makita (their biggest)
I loved this polisher since I saw the AU version months ago. Tt doesn`t hurt that Makita has one of the best 18v vacuums out there too. And I just Googled and saw they have a 18v 4 gallon sprayer.
 
On another note, Makita informed me that the original PO5000c/po6000C does infact have an electronic controller...so that means. Free spin is still worthless for polish/compounding...and only good for wetsanding and LSP application.
 
nothingface5384 said:
On another note, Makita informed me that the original PO5000c/po6000C does infact have an electronic controller...so that means. Free spin is still worthless for polish/compounding...and only good for wetsanding and LSP application.
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Care to explain why the electronic controller`s bad? From everything I`ve read one would want to use this in forced rotation mode for any correction. And free spin to apply waxes and sealants. Which seems to echo what you just said. Not knowing a ton here, I just imagine any correction on a free spinning unit that only has a 5mm throw would pretty much suck.
 
quebert said:
Care to explain why the electronic controller`s bad? From everything I`ve read one would want to use this in forced rotation mode for any correction. And free spin to apply waxes and sealants. Which seems to echo what you just said. Not knowing a ton here, I just imagine any correction on a free spinning unit that only has a 5mm throw would pretty much suck.
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Yeah 5.5mm isn`t enough to keep lad rotation

We all know 8mm is enough.
I wonder how 6.5 mm would be

When Makita debuted this, I got my unit right away, noticed this issue and messaged Makita about a variable throw option for freespin mode..they sadly say they don`t take user submissions...years gone by and no change besides cordless version
 
nothingface5384 said:
Yeah 5.5mm isn`t enough to keep lad rotation

We all know 8mm is enough.
I wonder how 6.5 mm would be

When Makita debuted this, I got my unit right away, noticed this issue and messaged Makita about a variable throw option for freespin mode..they sadly say they don`t take user submissions...years gone by and no change besides cordless version
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Okay that`s what I thought, but you said in your 1st post it runs circles around others when in forced rotation mode. So would you said this free spin is a problem, or more of an annoyance? I was under the impression that for applying an LSP the free spin here would work good enough. I`ve never used a 3401 so I`m kind of trying to figure out if this Makita`s the tool for me. I know Flex has a 18v free spin, and are coming with a cordless 3401. I`m not sure which I should get.
 
quebert said:
Okay that`s what I thought, but you said in your 1st post it runs circles around others when in forced rotation mode. So would you said this free spin is a problem, or more of an annoyance? I was under the impression that for applying an LSP the free spin here would work good enough. I`ve never used a 3401 so I`m kind of trying to figure out if this Makita`s the tool for me. I know Flex has a 18v free spin, and are coming with a cordless 3401. I`m not sure which I should get.
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Your buying the Makita for forced rotation feature, the free spin mode was a bonus...a bonus you just throw away and don`t use lol....unless you plan to put sanding discs on it.

Makita is more known for polishing in wood working...not paint

If they ever add variable throw for freespin it`ll be a true dual purpose detailing machine...they could also just up the 5.5 to 8mm with no variable throw, but that may make it undesirable for walk and vibration, which is why I never cared.for the 3401
 
Read a review, 25 minutes run time with a 6ah battery, I could have sworn I read somewhere 40 minutes with a 5ah. And it looks like the only car charger they sell takes 90 minutes to charge a 5ah. If I get this, I`ll need a boat load of batteries if I want to correct a car in 1 session. And I`m going to guess charging a battery from dead to full in my car without the car running wouldn`t be great for my cars battery. Looks like this is going to be a way more expensive endeavor than I had originally planned on lol.
 
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