P&S Beadmaker?

[wristymanchego]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

PA side doing fine but Beadmaker side already losing slickness and beads are even less impressive than before...flattening out considerably.

This is the benefit of beadmaker.

Adding gloss and slickness that lasts only until the next wash is the perfect topper for a coating.

I don’t understand why people are spending a fortune coating their car and adding extra rubbish over the top every few months for maintenance. It negates the reason you have a coating in the first place, costs more and doesn’t allow you to enjoy any of the benefits of said coating.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

This is the benefit of beadmaker.

Adding gloss and slickness that lasts only until the next wash is the perfect topper for a coating.

For your routine and preferences, it certainly is. For me, not so much. I wash as little as possible, Beadmaker will not help with with that routine.

Beadmaker is in no way a bad product, obviously, given its popularity, heck I enjoyed the heck out of using it...the slickness is other-worldly.

I don’t understand why people are spending a fortune coating their car and adding extra rubbish over the top every few months for maintenance. It negates the reason you have a coating in the first place, costs more and doesn’t allow you to enjoy any of the benefits of said coating.

Two reasons, really. It`s fun and it works for me. I dont claim my methods are in any the best, but they are the best for me. I don`t really like washing cars much, it`s usually a chore.

Beadmaker is pretty cool stuff but areas in which it excels just dont align with what I like to do...no worries, gotta do what works for ya.

 

[The Guz]

P&S Beadmaker?

Good video showing the gloss of both. Would you use Beadmaker as a QD? One of the reasons I haven’t got Beadmaker is I don’t know when I would use it. Maybe right before a car show?

You are asking the wrong guy lol. I’m not venturing into beadmaker. Does not speak to me as a must have product. I’ll stick to what works for me.

Beadmaker seems like it’s the flavor of the month. I will wait for the SiO2 infused version lol.

Terrible review. The dudes main focus, gloss, cannot be perceived over a video. He also goes on so say that Beadmaker isn’t easy to apply.

Beadmaker is the simplest product I’ve used, and considering its top of class slickness ability, the user experience is one of the most pleasurable.

I will try Elixir when I get a chance.

Post a video or thoughts on both. Gloss is hard to perceived camera. I’m sure this guy never used either of these products and you know that it takes a couple uses to really figure out a product.

Elixir is that combo with hydro2 correct? So you have to come 3 to 4 different ingredients from CarPro to compare it to Bead Maker is that correct? Kinda expensive.

That is correct. Elixir is a mixture of all three products. Perhaps it’s expensive up front but cheaper in the long run as they are all concentrates.

They are two different products the way I see it. Elixir is a QD and beadmaker is touted as a spray sealant.

This is the benefit of beadmaker.

Adding gloss and slickness that lasts only until the next wash is the perfect topper for a coating.

I don’t understand why people are spending a fortune coating their car and adding extra rubbish over the top every few months for maintenance. It negates the reason you have a coating in the first place, costs more and doesn’t allow you to enjoy any of the benefits of said coating.

In most cases I agree about your comments regarding a topper. I personally don’t use them on my personal coated cars. I’m mostly using Ech2o and as a drying aid. I’ve been experimenting with Shine Supply Throttle as of late.

 

[Loach]

After reviewing the footage, Classic CQuartz + Bead Maker at 8.5 months looks more hydrophobic than CQuartz at 1 week young. Last time Bead Maker was applied was 2 weeks prior to this last wash and rinse. With Gyeon One + Bead Maker, I can`t discern a difference in hydrophobic behavior compared to 1 week young, maintaining near 100% fresh short term performance at 8.5 months during the last wash and rinse after Bead Maker was applied. I`m going to see if I can cut some footage and release a video this weekend to show you guys what I`m seeing. I finally applied Bead Maker on a large section of the pure CQUK 3.0 section, so I`ll run a wash and rinse this weekend to film how it does. I`m really liking what I`m seeing, one of the issues with my testing though is the lack of space to run comparison testing against other types of toppers. Especially even cheaper and more available options like Ultimate Quik Wax.

 

[Coatings=crack]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

This is the benefit of beadmaker.

Adding gloss and slickness that lasts only until the next wash is the perfect topper for a coating.

I don’t understand why people are spending a fortune coating their car and adding extra rubbish over the top every few months for maintenance. It negates the reason you have a coating in the first place, costs more and doesn’t allow you to enjoy any of the benefits of said coating.

I get what you say. If a sealant last 6 months you would leave it alone... value proposition. Guys like budget (me?) likes to rub things into paint. More can’t hurt and definitely will add a thicker layer of protection. I’m coating just to add more to protect clearcoat. That’s the added step. The sealant are hopefully to aid in durability and depending on the toppers adds more shine extend the hydrophobic properties just my 2 cents. No silence behind it just a hobby.


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[Coatings=crack]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

In most cases I agree about your comments regarding a topper. I personally don’t use them on my personal coated cars. I’m mostly using Ech2o and as a drying aid. I’ve been experimenting with Shine Supply Throttle as of late.

I’m thinking throttle a lot like 914 as WW? Works well on matte paint so that’s gotta not leave to much behind. Have you tried punch it? If you don’t mind the need for letting sit (haze?), Clutch is also an Awesome product for them. Bought the gallon so left the throttle and clutch behind...



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[Rsurfer]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

Mate, just pull the pin and try a bottle. It’s cheap as chips to see if you like it.

Just don’t use it as a sealant. Use it as a quick detailer.

Most QD`s clean, BM was not designed to clean.

 

[wristymanchego]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

Most QD`s clean, BM was not designed to clean.

This was more to help distinguish it from being a sealant which even though they say it is, I won’t class it as one.

I probably should have substituted “as” for “like”.

Old mate knew what I was talking about.

 

[Loach]

Finally applied Bead Maker on top of CQUK 3.0 after 8.5 months on the paint. Short raw video clip below, no voice, Bead Maker was applied 2 weeks ago and we`re right around 9 months of total durability at this point. Driver`s side door has CQUK 3.0, right half with Bead Maker topped, left half no toppers. No noticeable drop in hydrophobic performance, improved slickness. The rear driver`s door is Classic CQuartz, same durability duration, fully topped with Bead Maker after about 6 months on the paint, last applied 2 weeks ago. This boosted the coating beyond its short term performance, still maintaining excellent hydrophobic performance. Similar stories with Gyeon One and Mohs, Blackfire Pro, McKee`s 37. It`s been a great coating topper for a product that really has a below average solo hydrophobic performance.

 

[rlmccarty2000]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

Most QD`s clean, BM was not designed to clean.

I had hoped this point would be made. QDs should have some sort of cleaning action/properties. Beadmaker and others that are marketed as “sealants” would not make suitable QDs for removing fingerprints or light dust.

 

[wristymanchego]

I had hoped this point would be made. QDs should have some sort of cleaning action/properties. Beadmaker and others that are marketed as “sealants” would not make suitable QDs for removing fingerprints or light dust.

Sure, they should but based on who’s definition? Most QDs speak of polymer technologies, water repellancy and adding additional protection whilst also cleaning dust and fingerprints.

Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer:
"Through the use of new Hydrophobic Polymer Technology, Meguiar’s has created a spray detailer that actually repels water, withstands multiple car washes, and adds additional protection to your finish. The gentle, high lubricity formula is safe on all paint types including the latest clear coats and can be used daily to remove loose contaminants, dust and grime to keep your car looking its absolute best."​

Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer:
"Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer adds the most gloss and slickness to the paint finish. This water-based, environmentally friendly formula utilizes flouropolymers, which repel dust, dirt, and oil."

Duragloss 921:
"Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine not only removes dust and enhances shine but also bonds to polishes and waxes increasing durability.
This is an amazing formula that is will drastically enhance the gloss, depth and shine after polishing or waxing. It is designed to remove dust, residue and fingermarks leaving a brilliant shine. However it bonds with durable polishes and waxes increasing their durability and depth of gloss."​

Beadmaker could quite easily have any of the above product descriptions.

It would be wise to personally try a product before you define it.

 

[Rsurfer]

Sure, they should but based on who’s definition? Most QDs speak of polymer technologies, water repellancy and adding additional protection whilst also cleaning dust and fingerprints.

Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer:
"Through the use of new Hydrophobic Polymer Technology, Meguiar’s has created a spray detailer that actually repels water, withstands multiple car washes, and adds additional protection to your finish. The gentle, high lubricity formula is safe on all paint types including the latest clear coats and can be used daily to remove loose contaminants, dust and grime to keep your car looking its absolute best."​

Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer:
"Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer adds the most gloss and slickness to the paint finish. This water-based, environmentally friendly formula utilizes flouropolymers, which repel dust, dirt, and oil."

Duragloss 921:
"Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine not only removes dust and enhances shine but also bonds to polishes and waxes increasing durability.
This is an amazing formula that is will drastically enhance the gloss, depth and shine after polishing or waxing. It is designed to remove dust, residue and fingermarks leaving a brilliant shine. However it bonds with durable polishes and waxes increasing their durability and depth of gloss."​

Beadmaker could quite easily have any of the above product descriptions.

It would be wise to personally try a product before you define it.

I have and all of the above products that you posted are quick detailers, meaning they clean light dust and dirt and leaves some protection and glossing agents, however little that might be.

Bead Maker is marketed as a spray sealant and not a qd. Sure it might clean, but if the manufacture does not say to use it on a slightly dirty car. I wouldn`t period.

 

[wristymanchego]

I have and all of the above products that you posted are quick detailers, meaning they clean light dust and dirt and leaves some protection and glossing agents, however little that might be.

Bead Maker is marketed as a spray sealant and not a qd. Sure it might clean, but if the manufacture does not say to use it on a slightly dirty car. I wouldn`t period.

Have you used beadmaker?

It’s barely a spray sealant, regardless of marketing claims.

 

[Rsurfer]

Have you used beadmaker?

It’s barely a spray sealant, regardless of marketing claims.

I said I had, many times. Again, iyo.

 

[dogma]

Have you used beadmaker?

It’s barely a spray sealant, regardless of marketing claims.

I absolutely love Bead maker, its a joy to use and the slickness and gloss are awesome. I never got that from a QD, other sealants or the watered down spray coatings. it all depends what you like. For me, I see no need to mix several products to try to duplicate the slickness and gloss of BM.

 

[Coatings=crack]

Never tried it probably never will everyone finds what the like for the reasons THEY like it. When debates come up their are SO many factors we don’t take into consideration. The weather, temp ,humidity, is park outside/inside, weather of where it’s park, are quality l, types of roads driven on, contaminants in air..... so on and so on. I’m the northwest I have heard BM gone after first rain. Merlin’s elixir holds up better for ME..... here.... with my weather conditions.... but if You (other autopians) like it and works well for YOU... in your weather conditions..... awesome apply some more.

Happy detailing:

 

[Rocker1911]

If bead maker is used as a topper for say a long lasting sealant or ceramic coating. As the bead maker wears off do the original properties of the coating/sealant underneath return?

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[Accumulator]

Re: P&S Beadmaker?

These products *cannot* be used as Drying Aids, right? Gotta be applied on a perfectly dry vehicle? Is the general consensus to use at every wash?

All-in-all, many of the features of these sprays remind me of QD-strength IUDJ, which comes awfully close to being equivalent to UQW/etc. for me (and maybe even bested the two Spray Sealants I`ve tried, which didn`t impress me at all). I guess Spray Waxes last a little longer, but if used at every wash I don`t discern much difference on paint (some black trim is a different matter and the Spray Waxes work better for me).

...[IMO using Bead Maker is]... fun and it works for me. I dont claim my methods are in any the best, but they are the best for me. I don`t really like washing cars much, it`s usually a chore..

I appreciate your posting the above (goodness, you`re starting to sound like me!) and that if using BM makes it more fun and less of a chore then I think that`s great.

If a sealant last 6 months you would leave it alone...

Heh heh, if a sealant *didn`t* last 6 months I`d be using something else! But I still use a leaves-stuff-behind Drying Aid anyhow.

 

[acuRAS82]

If bead maker is used as a topper for say a long lasting sealant or ceramic coating. As the bead maker wears off do the original properties of the coating/sealant underneath return?

They should. Some may argue that the underlying sealant properties may not be the EXACT same since the topper likely merged into the LSP in some way... but in my experience, unless you topped over and over for weeks/months, the properties (or very close to) of the LSP do come back once the topper has warm off.

Disclaimer: opinion based on strong LSP used and the toppers that don’t appear to have tons of solvents in them. I can’t speak for coatings.

 

[Accumulator]

I`d expect different toppers to "die off" differently same as with LSPs; some just "go away cleanly" while others need some kind of prep before reapplying. Could well be one of those !YMMV! things.