What`s BETTER than Zaino?

Desertnate said:
I`ve got CanCoat sitting on the shelf ready for application this Spring on several cars. Did you do anything special to get those results? Were there applications of Cure along the way as a booster?
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The only thing I did special was prep the paint with a polish and did a final wipe down. Other than that I just followed the manufacturers directions. I did apply two coats. With an additional coat on the front of the car plus side mirrors.

I believe the longevity came from the prep plus regular wash cycles. I did not use Cure at all.
 
I haven`t found anything, yet, that lasts as long as DG105 which is essentially ZAIO.

For ease of use and durability it`s pretty damn easy and durable. It protects just as well as any other wax or sealant I`ve used.

For water etching and bird bomb etching I don`t think any wax or sealant will significantly perform differently if it`s freshly applied. That goes back to that Mike Phillips quote, "Find what you like and use it often." (Or something like that.

Those saying Zaino doesn`t protect.. I would definitely disagree. You could have one bird bomb etch and another not etch depending on what the damn thing ate. So to say, "I had Zaino on my car and it got etched by a bird bomb (water spot) etc." isn`t particularly useful... unless of course you had the same bird, on the same day with a different sealant take a crap on your car and THAT part didn`t etch.

Same can be said about water spots. Some rain is more acidic than others. Some sprinklers have harder water than others etc.

There are some good videos on youtube that actually SHOW the differences between longevity of product, and IMHO this is really the only true measure of protection.

If product is there... you`re probably protected unless you leave the damn bird bomb on your car for hours in the sun. If it`s not then yeah you`re not protected.

I`d like to see more reviews along the lines of this:


This to me is a good review of various products.
 
Imatk said:
Those saying Zaino doesn`t protect.. I would definitely disagree. You could have one bird bomb etch and another not etch depending on what the damn thing ate. So to say, "I had Zaino on my car and it got etched by a bird bomb (water spot) etc." isn`t particularly useful... unless of course you had the same bird, on the same day with a different sealant take a crap on your car and THAT part didn`t etch.

Same can be said about water spots. Some rain is more acidic than others. Some sprinklers have harder water than others etc.
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Well, since birds rarely leave a dietary description memo along with their gifts and rain usually comes down so quickly as to make testing it`s chemical makeup impractical, I had to cast a wide net and assume every one of those environmental conditions had the potential to do so...and act accordingly. Additionally, Zaino car gets rained on, gotta wash it otherwise it looks like a car that, well, just got rained on. Current LSP`s eliminate the urgency of all of those situations.

Not to say I didn`t like Zaino, thought it was the greatest stuff in the world while I used it, and it was great stuff for its time, many compliments...but then I found something better FOR ME that eliminated the above concerns.

I`m not raggin` on Zaino so much as pointing out how, again...FOR ME, I have found a better solution that meets my requirements more suitably.
 
Not having to do immediate clean-offs to prevent etching from contamination like bugs/birds is awfully nice. And the "self-cleaning in rain" thing is pretty swell too.

BUT...IME Zaino has a, uhm... Signature Look, and if somebody wants *that* then I can understand why they`d stick with the stuff. It`s one of the few LSPs I can usually ID on something IRL- "hey, nice car, is that Zaino? Yeah, thought so..."
 
Accumulator said:
Not having to do immediate clean-offs to prevent etching from contamination like bugs/birds is awfully nice. And the "self-cleaning in rain" thing is pretty swell too.

BUT...IME Zaino has a, uhm... Signature Look, and if somebody wants *that* then I can understand why they`d stick with the stuff. It`s one of the few LSPs I can usually ID on something IRL- "hey, nice car, is that Zaino? Yeah, thought so..."
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Feynlab Ceramic + Topcoat pretty well mimicks that Zaino look. It`s gloss can best be defined as `brilliant`.

Only have about 4500 miles on the truck I used it on and it`s doing very well. Could easily pick it out due to its look when parked next to vehicles with other coatings.

When I get some time, wanna find a white or silver car and give it a go. I think it will compliment those colors very well.
 
Try love bugs, birds can`t touch these.......

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Imatk said:
I haven`t found anything, yet, that lasts as long as DG105 which is essentially ZAIO.

For ease of use and durability it`s pretty damn easy and durable. It protects just as well as any other wax or sealant I`ve used.

For water etching and bird bomb etching I don`t think any wax or sealant will significantly perform differently if it`s freshly applied. That goes back to that Mike Phillips quote, "Find what you like and use it often." (Or something like that.

Those saying Zaino doesn`t protect.. I would definitely disagree. You could have one bird bomb etch and another not etch depending on what the damn thing ate. So to say, "I had Zaino on my car and it got etched by a bird bomb (water spot) etc." isn`t particularly useful... unless of course you had the same bird, on the same day with a different sealant take a crap on your car and THAT part didn`t etch.

Same can be said about water spots. Some rain is more acidic than others. Some sprinklers have harder water than others etc.

There are some good videos on youtube that actually SHOW the differences between longevity of product, and IMHO this is really the only true measure of protection.

If product is there... you`re probably protected unless you leave the damn bird bomb on your car for hours in the sun. If it`s not then yeah you`re not protected.

I`d like to see more reviews along the lines of this:


This to me is a good review of various products.
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I think the problem might be the amount of protection, and not the length of protection. Sure I see water beading off the Zaino car, but WHY is the clearcoat picking up contamination, and etching from water spots and other dirt?????? I have also had REALLY bad water spots to the point of needing paint correction. Where`s the paint protection SAL?????? I`m really just quite fed up with Zaino at this point.

As for the shine.... EH........

The Z2 creates a mirror shine, while the Z5 gives dark colors more depth. But many other products are pretty darn good as well. I remember the Mothers Carnauba Wax from the late 90`s that produced a similar look, with MUCH BETTER protection as well.

For those that are using better products, please share the products and process you`re using now.

THANKS!
 
killerzee said:
..or those that are using better products, please share the products and process you`re using now.
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Aw gee, the regulars here will see this coming a mile away-

FK1000P reapplied when something I value (often the shape of the beads) changes. Which is maybe an annual occurrence at the absolute most.

I don`t clean off bugs/bird-bombs between regular washes, which are sometimes quite far between. While YMMV will always apply, and most people will probably need to apply more often than I do, using that stuff has simply eliminated a whole lot of my need to detail.

Heh heh, NO, I do not "use it often". No need to.
 
Yes 501 is the marine category product a good one. Also 101 is similar but there is no exact product of Zaino AIO

They are their own formulations even if they come down that assembly line in NC


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MattPersman said:
Yes 501 is the marine category product a good one. Also 101 is similar but there is no exact product of Zaino AIO

They are their own formulations even if they come down that assembly line in NC


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Interesting. Which would you say is closest to Zaino AIO? 501 or 101?
 
Imo they are both so similar. The more widely used one is 501 but I assure you 101 is no slouch either just not as much press about it. All this stuff just starts to get subjective and opinionated at some point

Heck they could be the same thing in different bottles


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Mckee`s 37 Products look great, and they seem to have a good lineup. I`m thinking of switching to their stuff. Their products seem very easy to use, provide good protection, shine, and longevity. Their prices also seem somewhat reasonable. $500 for a wax is a joke. Actually any product that costs more than $50 is questionable........ One word...... MARKETING & PRICING....
 
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