Anybody using a SPRAY as sole LSP?

It`s nice to see so many Likes for OCW, and you can`t really go wrong at the price. Also nice to see recommendations for Griots Best in Show QD, because I really like it, but was unaware it added protection (?).

Then there`s the McKees stuff. Choices choices. And Sonax BSD is loved here and on the UK forums. Geez, I already have so many QDs. I might limit my search to bottles that say "wax" or "sealant" etc on them just to narrow it down.
 
My 2 favorites at the moment for my GQ are
Pinnacle spray wax, after a wash (just got a gal.)
PA Rapidwaxx, every 2 weeks (more dif. to apply)

My daily gets
Trifecta after a wash, in a wax dilution ratio (pain to apply, but lasts at least 3 weeks)

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I used OCW pretty much exclusively on our leased Acura for 3 years. Car was parked outdoors 24x7 and I was getting at least two months out of it, any more than that and it was starting to fade on the hood and roof. Paint looked better than the day we picked the car up. No hard water etching, no acid rain spotting, no bird bomb etchings and most stuff came off very easily. You can feel confident in using it as a stand alone LSP.
 
Dan- I gotta say that IME the OCW doesn`t protect against etching as well as FK1000P, but then I`m spoiled, used to leaving bugs/bird-bombs on the paint for extended periods. That and OCW`s less impressive dirt-shedding (no, it`s not *bad* or anything..) are the only reasons I`ll probably FK it.
 
Accumulator said:
Dan- I gotta say that IME the OCW doesn`t protect against etching as well as FK1000P, but then I`m spoiled, used to leaving bugs/bird-bombs on the paint for extended periods. That and OCW`s less impressive dirt-shedding (no, it`s not *bad* or anything..) are the only reasons I`ll probably FK it.
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You know, its hard to compare etching resistance, unless you can get the bird to deliver on both cars with the same payload BUT I have no expectations that a spray would outperform the great FK1000P. However I`ve had products on cars that just about any bird bomb would etch in minutes, and OCW isn`t anywhere near that bad, in fact it seems far better than is to be expected from a product you can use as a drying aid. 100% agree on not being a great dirt shedder either. Seems similar to 845 in that regard, at least for me.
 
WaxAddict said:
What makes a wax or sealant a good dirt shedder, I wonder, insofar as chemically or mechanically?
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One factor I`ve found is how oily/silicone loaded it is. The really "dry" sealants and especially coatings are superior in that respect.
 
Dan said:
You know, its hard to compare etching resistance, unless you can get the bird to deliver on both cars with the same payload BUT I have no expectations that a spray would outperform the great FK1000P. However I`ve had products on cars that just about any bird bomb would etch in minutes, and OCW isn`t anywhere near that bad, in fact it seems far better than is to be expected from a product you can use as a drying aid...
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Yeah, the OCW`s etching resistance *is* superior to many LSPs, vastly better than some sealants like UPP. But it does get etched now and then whereas the FK just *never* seems to no matter what.

100% agree on not being a great dirt shedder either. Seems similar to 845 in that regard, at least for me.
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IME the 845 sheds dirt really well *for a while* whereas the OCW just doesn`t. When the A8`s OCW gets dirty it stays dirty until I wash it. Works out OK since I do it so often and it`s not like I`m getting more wash-induced marring so I guess it sheds it well enough. But I just went *years* between clayings on the Tahoe with no problem and I sure can`t do that with OCW.
 
I use megs ultimate spray wax. Works very well and has good durability imo.

I’ve been detains for more years than I care to admit. I’ve got a garage full of boutique ```` that’s all a waste of money imo. People get sucked into all this crap as I did too but the quality OTC stuff has come a long way and I just stick to what’s easily accessible to me. I only detail my own cars now.

I had tons of Optium stuff and throu most of it away. Way over rated and over priced.
 
Fallz said:
I use megs ultimate spray wax. Works very well and has good durability imo.

I’ve been detains for more years than I care to admit. I’ve got a garage full of boutique ```` that’s all a waste of money imo. People get sucked into all this crap as I did too but the quality OTC stuff has come a long way and I just stick to what’s easily accessible to me. I only detail my own cars now.

I had tons of Optium stuff and throu most of it away. Way over rated and over priced.
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Megs Ultimate Spray Wax, and it`s "professional" gallon-sized cousin D156, ARE great sprays, used as drying agents, quick touch ups, and for use on hard plastics inside and out. It looks good too. However, longevity hasn`t been it`s strong suit in my testing, lasting only about as long as better QD`s.

While I see your point about over-priced snake oil - a rabbit hole I have fallen into as well - Optimum Car Wax is far from over priced. For instance, at a famous web site, Meg`s UQW $0.86 per ounce and Optimum Car Wax is $0.97 per ounce. That`s likely to work out to like 33 cents more to "wax" your car with OCW than UQW.
 
If you want spray waxes, here are my recommendations.

Poorboys Quick Wax +

McKee`s 37 Trademark Extender Spray Wax

Polish Angel Spritz
 
What sold me on OCW is the UV protection and the (proven to my satisfaction) compatibility with fresh repaints; that`s why I started using it, and when it ended up looking OK on the A8 I just kept it up.

Wonder why I seem to be the only person who doesn`t like the look of Meguiar`s UQW/D156 on my paints?!? I`m generally not all that discerning about such stuff by Autopian standards...
 
pwaug- Ah, I always appreciate hearing what is/isn`t compatible with FK1000P :D

That said, I`m still *SO* happy with how IUDJ is on it that I`ll probably just keep using that. But I do wonder if trying something like the Ultima would change my mind (my VISA whispers "quit trying to solve problems you don`t know you have" ;) ).
 
pwaug said:
I`ve been using Ultima Acrylic Spray wax as a topper for FK1000 for the past year. It behaves and looks allot like 1000, the durability seems to be good, contains UV protection and is very hydrophobic. Very high gloss. Should work well as a stand alone LSP.
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Honestly, that Ultima product surprised me. I liked it. As a standalone, I`m sure it would be good. Not sure how it does for etching and such, but it is hydrophobic to my liking. I`ve really, REALLY, been debating using the Ultima sealant I have, topping with Acrylic Spray wax, and using Ultima`s rinseless wash for one of my vehicles. But, I`ve already gone by way of Blackfire`s products on the wife`s Kia. My Yaris is wearing various LSPs, and my Jeep will, at least for several months, wear random LSPs as I continue trying things out.

On a side note, I haven`t done much to my Yaris (except the hood(s)) since I wrote the review for the Ultima Flawless Finish System, and sometimes i really do wonder if some of that (and Acrylic Spray) are still on there!! I`ve mostly just done quickie coin-op washes, and occasional rinseless with ONR, some waterless with Poorboy`s Spray N Wipe, and Spray N Gloss. And the sections I *did* do with those Ultima products do continue to look better, and sheet water a tad better

Of course, it could all be in my head. Maybe I`m asleep. Where`s my coffee?

edit: adding two links to Ultima reviews I`ve done (If you haven`t done so, do that "workaround" to be able to see the "dead" photobucket links.

https://www.autopia.org/forums/deta...view-ultima-acrylic-spray-wax.html?highlight=

https://www.autopia.org/forums/deta...flawless-finish-beta-test-kit.html?highlight=
 
Fallz said:
I use megs ultimate spray wax. Works very well and has good durability imo.

I’ve been detains for more years than I care to admit. I’ve got a garage full of boutique ```` that’s all a waste of money imo. People get sucked into all this crap as I did too but the quality OTC stuff has come a long way and I just stick to what’s easily accessible to me. I only detail my own cars now.

I had tons of Optium stuff and throu most of it away. Way over rated and over priced.
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OCW may be overrated but certainly isn`t overpriced.

OCW is $50 a gallon and contains synthetic polymers as well as carnauba wax. There are also 2 patents for the UV protection OCW provides. It`s probably the thickest spray wax on the market and it requires VERY little product to wax an entire car AND it`s silicone free/fresh paint safe.

I love Meg`s X-press Wax @ $30 a gallon but it does contain silicone and is really more of an amplified QD than a substantial spray wax.

I do think ONR is overrated and I don`t think it seems as concentrated as other Rinseless washes.
 
pwaug said:
I`ve been using Ultima Acrylic Spray wax as a topper for FK1000 for the past year. It behaves and looks allot like 1000, the durability seems to be good, contains UV protection and is very hydrophobic. Very high gloss. Should work well as a stand alone LSP.

https://www.autopia-carcare.com/ultima-acrylic-spray-wax.html
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That seems very promising. I like the idea of an acrylic spray sealant. Ultima products fly under the radar to me for some reason, which doesn’t make sense because UWW+ is a mainstay in my garage. That, and the Polycharger technology, is good stuff, based on my experience with Sonus products that I like.

Rambling a bit now, but did you know that Ultima, Sonus, and Four Star are all interrelated? One clue is the Polycgarger technology that all 3 boast. I think Four Star came first.

I think I will get some OCW and some Ultima Acrylic spray wax and use them this summer. Do a test. All that nerdy stuff.
 
WaxAddict said:
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That seems very promising. I like the idea of an acrylic spray sealant. Ultima products fly under the radar to me for some reason, which doesn’t make sense because UWW+ is a mainstay in my garage. That, and the Polycharger technology, is good stuff, based on my experience with Sonus products that I like.

Rambling a bit now, but did you know that Ultima, Sonus, and Four Star are all interrelated? One clue is the Polycgarger technology that all 3 boast. I think Four Star came first.

I think I will get some OCW and some Ultima Acrylic spray wax and use them this summer. Do a test. All that nerdy stuff.
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After using ONR for years I gave UWW+ a try and have never gone back--the UWW+ leaves a much slicker surface than ONR and it`s fantastic as a clay lube. And loved the Acrylic as I mentioned above and you can use it on paint, chrome trim, black trim and glass. So this spring I`m going to give Ultima Paint Guard Plus as my LSP. While I really like the durability and protection of FK1000, it`s allot of work. The UPGP is WOWA and can also be used on the black plastic trim so it should be allot less work. I`ll give it a try and see how it protects and lasts.
 
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