Ceramic Pro Layering...

BudgetPlan1

BudgetPlan1

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Obviously no first hand knowledge but seeing packages offered like:

1 layer of Ceramic Pro 9H and 1 layer of Light
4 layers of Ceramic Pro 9H and 1 Layer of Light
6 layers of Ceramic Pro 9H and 1 Layer of Light
8 layers of Ceramic Pro 9H and 1 Layer of Light

Valid reason for this kinda thing or overkill?
 
Overkill... and just silly marketing. A 50ml bottle is only good for 1 complete layer so to do 8 layers would cost????? Yeah I`ll spend my $$$ on a proven winner like EXO + CSL = :)
 
Without some testing and independent assessment there`s no way to know. For example, do a 50/50 on a hood with one layer and 4 layers on the others side. Have somebody with no knowledge take a look at tell you what they think. Do they see a difference, and which do they think looks better. Would also be pretty easy to test for water sheeting and other effects over a year or so.
 
Angus said:
Overkill... and just silly marketing. A 50ml bottle is only good for 1 complete layer so to do 8 layers would cost????? Yeah I`ll spend my $$$ on a proven winner like EXO + CSL = :)
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The car no doubt looked great in the end, but how did it look after polishing and in the different lighting (notice they changed areas).
 
oh man finally someone starts this thread

thanks

not knocking the guy who can sell someone on this but I have my scientific doubts

I have CSL+EXO and then a lot of PA toppers...I`d take my look over any of these 10 layer coating combos
 
512detail said:
not knocking the guy who can sell someone on this but I have my scientific doubts
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I think someone that is formulating this stuff and is honest needs to chime in to really know. Does the first layer cure before the next is applied or does the solvent remove the first layer. There is no doubt some product can be layered (KSG for example will fill swirls when layered) but curing time is required. Or someone with a really good PTG.
 
Dan said:
I think someone that is formulating this stuff and is honest needs to chime in to really know. Does the first layer cure before the next is applied or does the solvent remove the first layer. There is no doubt some product can be layered (KSG for example will fill swirls when layered) but curing time is required. Or someone with a really good PTG.
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good luck

that`d be like getting dual polymer wash people to admit that alien rw and the other ansulary "privately labeled" brands are the same thing... my questions just get deleted on their posts on social media

or like me admitting I have enough Polish Angel products, ha
 
I am, however, curious how much they get for these multiple layer jobs and more importantly how quickly do they cure, I think I saw a video and the guy said one hour and you can apply the second layer and so forth and so on.
 
512detail said:
I am, however, curious how much they get for these multiple layer jobs and more importantly how quickly do they cure, I think I saw a video and the guy said one hour and you can apply the second layer and so forth and so on.
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Cures in 1 hour but don`t get rain on it for 24 hours??? :D
 
Yeah anything more than 2 layers is overboard and a waste imo. I know IGL coatings all require 2 layers with a 2 hour cure between them.

I can tell you right now those 10 layer jobs with correction have to cost in the area of 3-4k. I know a gentleman who got the gold package which I believe is the 4 layers plus 1 light and it was over 2500 for each vehicle. And this was on his brand new Porsche and c7 corvette.
 
dang..well I guess those installers are laughing all the way to the bank then


I cant even sell 2 step and CSL+EXO
 
Platinum Package: 2100$
Polishing with Nanopolish.
4 layer Ceramic PRO 9H.
2 extra layers on the front.
2 layer Ceramic PRO Light.
Ceramic PRO Rain on all windows.
2 layers Ceramic PRO Strong on rims.
Ceramic PRO on all plastic exterior.
Ceramic PRO Plastic / Textile / Leather interior.
For each layer ceramic PRO extra 125$

This is from a detailing center in Sweden. And it`s the biggest package they offer. They have warnings about others who offers ceramic PRO 9h and don`t are certified and uses copys of it.
I don`t believe in it`s longevity and the hardness they claims it has.
 
that`s just insane..who wants all that on top of paint that is only one stepped? I`ve seen plenty a few cars untouched from the dealer and they needed a solid two step to even consider getting rid of the die back or other manufactured issues

maybe that`s just the autopian in me, but I am personally struggling with offering a one step + coating as I`m making my official price listings (finally)
 
This is on new cars they says. So a correction on a car who is used costs more. There is about 10-15 centers in Sweden. And they looks like legit businesses to what I can see.
 
SWETM said:
This is on new cars they says. So a correction on a car who is used costs more. There is about 10-15 centers in Sweden. And they looks like legit businesses to what I can see.
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I don`t draw the line between new and used personally. I`ve seen brand new cars that looked worse than used ones. I`d expect it to cost more but it seems like they`re charging a whole lot for just the coating steps. I`d hate to see what the price was with a compounding stage prior to the nanopolish (and that`s assuming the nanopolish will finish down the compounding step).
 
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