Make America Grope Again

JSFM35X said:
This election is becoming a bigger joke by the debate. I have just a few random thoughts

1 Hillary is lucky that she is running against Trump
2 Trump is equally as bad in my eyes after his performance last night.

I wish there was a better choice but here isn`t. No 3rd party will make a big enough dent.

People more than ever strip away your personal feeling. Neither one of these characters is someone you want to have your kids look up to sadly. They both have skeletons that have been put into public view. Both have done and said things that have shocked me and I don`t shock easily.

But at the end of the day vote for who you think will make the country better and stronger for all of us. We all have our issues with the current state of affairs. And For me is comes down to more of the same politics or a guy who runs the government like a business. Strip away the mud slinging and name calling and questionable facts and this is what your left with.

I`m not that old or that young and I am not overly political but this is more like the jersey shore than a presidential election.
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Good points. Unfortunately one of them will become president and neither of them will make the country better or stronger. So for me it is a matter of who will inflict the least amount of damage. I hate that it`s come to that, but it has.
 
Nutbread said:
Unfortunately one of them will become president and neither of them will make the country better or stronger. So for me it is a matter of who will inflict the least amount of damage. I hate that it`s come to that, but it has.
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Wouldn`t surprise me if most people on boths sides of the aisle feel that way. Sad state of affairs indeed.
 
Accumulator said:
ca.detail.chick- I think you`ll understand when I say that my greatest gripe about this Election Cycle is the disappointment of seeing so many people displaying certain, uhm...characteristics. Not like *I* am gonna just forget all this stuff in a year or ten...IMO a lot of people are showing the kind of True Colors that are usually kept under wraps, and for good reason.
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Yes I see this esp in FB "friends".Its enlightening for sure! But you know people do change . I have changed my opinion on a lot of things over the years so have hope !
 
I am not sure why people here are blaming Hilary Clinton for her husbands cheating and treatment of women.She was the one who was betrayed and humiliated by her own husband .How is that her fault?
 
ca.detail.chick- I could of course be wrong...but I think it`s a matter of how Hillary behaved towards the women involved, and also how she behaved towards some other women who were victims of [bad behavior]. At one point I too thought she was simply a Wronged Party but as various things came to light I changed my opinion on that.

And yeah...

But you know people do change . I have changed my opinion on a lot of things over the years so have hope !
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Yeah, I too have changed many of my views over the years, and I`m all for Hope Springs Eternal! But some of the stuff people are saying/defending still makes me reconsider my opinons of them and IME by the time most folks are grownups many of their basic traits are pretty firmly set.
 
ca.detailchick said:
I am not sure why people here are blaming Hilary Clinton for her husbands cheating and treatment of women.She was the one who was betrayed and humiliated by her own husband .How is that her fault?
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I have not seen anyone blame her for her husbands behavior. The bottom line is that she tolerated it. Moreso, she was complicit in it because she worked to silence the women that accused him, simply because it was inconvenient for her own plans.

She can`t really play the card of being about women`s rights and such after she`s done all that. Hillary is about Hillary, and that`s it.
 
ca.detailchick said:
I am not sure why people here are blaming Hilary Clinton for her husbands cheating and treatment of women.She was the one who was betrayed and humiliated by her own husband .How is that her fault?
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Are you not aware of the many trips Bill took to his pals island with underage kids there? He is a predator and she probably kiss him goodbye on those trips.

Then there are the hundred dead bodies surrounding them.
 
Given that she`s (probably always been) all about Hillary, I`m neither surprised or bothered that she "tolerated" Bubba`s misdeeds...not much she coulda done other than divorce him and that wouldn`t have been in her best interest. I don`t mind her being all about Herself (just like most Politicians), but I *DO* mind how she`s treated other (genuine) victims while playing the Woman`s Rights card.
 
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Accumulator said:
Given that she`s (probably always been) all about Hillary, I`m neither surprised or bothered that she "tolerated" Bubba`s misdeeds...not much she coulda done other than divorce him and that wouldn`t have been in her best interest. I don`t mind her being all about Herself (just like most Politicians), but I *DO* mind how she`s treated other (genuine) victims while playing the Woman`s Rights card.
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I see...I havent been following any of that and now I am sorry I asked LOL
 
If private conversations are made public just about everyone is going to be in trouble to some level. Really I have over heard girls rip their besties to shreds. And yes Donald made some horrible comments and guys talk junk all the time. Weather its horsepower or girls they both get exaggerated. And when it`s made public It`s enbarassing. Period. It`s not criminal it`s embarrassing. Get you scales out and weigh it for yourselves.
 
Which candidates spouse is the bigger albatross? Should it really matter who the President is married to? I`m not a big Michelle Obama fan (Junkfood Junkie that I am) but I believe she has been an asset to Obama. Bill has pluses and minuses, and the longer this goes on the more things come out about him. Usually family is left out of politics and I blame Trump for slinging mud during the primaries. Politics are nasty, but this year is a new low. A candidate should not have to defend his/her spouse, after all we are not electing the spouse.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
Usually family is left out of politics and I blame Trump for slinging mud during the primaries. Politics are nasty, but this year is a new low. A candidate should not have to defend his/her spouse, after all we are not electing the spouse.
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THen don`t use them in the campaign.

As well as hilly has said willie will be an integral part of her administration. = Fair game.
 
I stayed away from this all weekend long due to just being tired of hearing about this unethical scammer. But even on my sports show, it came up. So here`s the point they were making. Mostly all networks have ex-players as commentators and/or reporters who have covered sports all their lives. They all said the same thing...what locker room was trump in? All the people agreed that in all the decades they have spent in locker rooms, not once have they heard that type of talk of degrading (and bragging) about women. To simply dismiss this as "locker room talk" is beyond belief. There is NO excuse, this scammer can`t lead our country plain and simple.
 
xspwrstang said:
I stayed away from this all weekend long due to just being tired of hearing about this unethical scammer. But even on my sports show, it came up. So here`s the point they were making. Mostly all networks have ex-players as commentators and/or reporters who have covered sports all their lives. They all said the same thing...what locker room was trump in? All the people agreed that in all the decades they have spent in locker rooms, not once have they heard that type of talk of degrading (and bragging) about women. To simply dismiss this as "locker room talk" is beyond belief. There is NO excuse, this scammer can`t lead our country plain and simple.
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so you can honestly say youve never said anything that you`re wither sorry for saying or in retrospect could be embarrasing ????

either you are not being hineat with us and yourself or you`re a better man than most.....
I`m betting the first.
 
Let`s watch the personal attacks.

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