Trump 2016

He is more like Barnum and Bailey. He is a no holds barred salesman. His positions change more than Hillary but she is no different in saying whatever she thinks you want here to say.

Example of Trump`s power and manipulation....Poor John McCain.. Trump said he was not a war hero..the war heroes were the ones not captured. He has a very contested election this year so he supporting Trump to save his seat. Trump creates leverage and uses to control people.

If you go against Donald, he will make it personal...like the judge involved the lawsuit on Trump University. He highlights he is Hispanic.

There is no doubt Trump is doing what he can in his own way only because he loves this country. That is more then pretty much any do nothing in Washington can say.

When the Dems are operating directly from the Alinsky playbook its about time we have a shock and awe President. You can tell who the problem people are, either by brainwashing or a conscious decision to transform America into a 3rd world socialist terror state, by who is offended by what Trump says.
 
I fully recognize that many do not see serious flaws in Trump`s personality that do not make him qualified to be president. Trump is the epic example.

Please ck my Hillary`s accomplishments post in Leading the Way and then please expound how she is ultimately qualified..... personally I have had enough with being lied to by the administration as well as being told I need to pay "my fair share" to support someone else who is perfectly able to support themselves but chose not to.

And please try to be specific as you can and not a talking point as they are too general in my opinion and not really conducive to intellectual debate.
 
Ron, you never accept what you disagree with or divert the discussion to a side issue. Your Hillary statement were rehashed talking points and no real interest in a thoughtful analysis. I just skim them since there is little being added except to try to stir the pot. I am no Hillary fan but you never seem to be publicly concerned about anything Trump says or does.

In all, the election is not going to be won or lost here at AF and the truth is not going to be determined by objective means so it is pointless.
 
I fully recognize that many do not see serious flaws in Trump`s personality that do not make him qualified to be president. Trump is the epic example.

Please state which? He`s not perfect by a long shot by I want to hear you define these flaws.
 
Ron, you never accept what you disagree with or divert the discussion to a side issue. Your Hillary statement were rehashed talking points and no real interest in a thoughtful analysis. I just skim them since there is little being added except to try to stir the pot. I am no Hillary fan but you never seem to be publicly concerned about anything Trump says or does.

In all, the election is not going to be won or lost here at AF and the truth is not going to be determined by objective means so it is pointless.

What you fail to realize is I am no real fan of Trump. But very against Hillary. So for me it`s ABC (anybody but Clinton) or ABD (anybody But a Democrat).

And I divert the subject ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Ron, you never accept what you disagree with or divert the discussion to a side issue.
I`m no Trump fan but I am someone who could not bring myself under any circumstance to vote for Hillary. I`m hugely disappointed at what the GOP has brought to the table and in my mind there is only one thing worse and that`s the "should be felon" the left has representing them. That said, I read all of these comments but will say that when it comes to diverting or changing topic there is a master but I don`t think it`s the "Wax Waster King".
 
Ron, you never accept what you disagree with or divert the discussion to a side issue.
I`m no Trump fan but I am someone who could not bring myself under any circumstance to vote for Hillary. I`m hugely disappointed at what the GOP has brought to the table and in my mind there is only one thing worse and that`s the "should be felon" the left has representing them. That said, I read all of these comments but will say that when it comes to diverting or changing topic there is a master but I don`t think it`s the "Wax Waster King".

:hail
 
What Trump says is out of line? At least he loves his country.

Bernie Sanders is a Communist Sympathizer

B ernie Sanders is the first Democrat who is honest about being a socialist. After all, with their policies demanding more and more government intrusion into our business and personal lives, they could only hide the truth of what they actually believe for that much longer. However, since socialism has failed everywhere it’s been tried, Bernie even admitted that the word socialism has become somewhat of a hindrance. Of course, you could point out all the despotic Socialist regimes, and you’d be making a good point. However, Bernie would still disagree with you! Not because he doesn’t think the mass murder and famine were a bad thing, but a good one. That’s right. An interview with Bernie emerged where he praised Fidel Castro’s regime. If you think his rape fantasy essay was shocking, or his folk album was hard to stomach, just wait until you hear his opinion on Communist Dictators…


Had a USSR Flag in his office when mayor

A lot of people don’t know this, but Bernie actually hung a Soviet Flag in office when he was mayor of Burlington. According to reporter Trevor Louden, Bernie hung the Soviet flag in his office to honor the Soviet sister city of Yaroslavl. You know, singing praises to the opposing side while you’re at war might seem treasonous to some, but if you’re a mayor of a major city, it’s perfectly acceptable and everyone will forget about it. No need to mention that the USSR was responsible for what some believe to be the biggest genocide in history. You’d be crazy to call Bernie a Communist. He only proudly hung their flag in his office.
Vacationed in the Soviet Union

OK, OK, so Bernie hung the flag of the USSR to celebrate his sister city. That doesn’t mean he’d actually enjoy visiting Soviet Russia, right? Surely he didn’t want anything to do with the country as a whole. Well…
[h=2]RELATED: TOP FIVE DUMBEST QUOTES FROM SOCIALIST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BERNIE SANDERS[/h]
Bernie Sanders did not only vacation in the Soviet Union, he honeymooned there. He described it as “strange honeymoon”. Once again, Sanders used the excuse that he did so in his town’s sister city of Yaroslavl. You have to wonder how much bad the Soviet Union could have done that Sanders was willing to overlook . Perhaps if Bernie loves Yaroslavl so much, he could do everyone a favor and move there.

Praises mass murderer in an interview

Bernie later confirmed he is a terrible human being when asked about Cuba. If you were unsure how to feel about Bernie prior to discovering Bernie’s love for Communist countries, prepare to feel your insides turn upside down. Prior to this point, one could make the argument that Bernie was simply willing to overlook the USSR’s atrocities out of honest respect to Burlington’s Soviet counterpart. If you made this argument, you’d be wrong. Bernie didn’t just support the local government of Yaroslavl, but generously praised the tyrannical regime of Fidel Castro in Cuba. This puts to rest any questions about where Bernie’s loyalties lie. Here’s the video and the exact quote:

“In 1961, [America] invaded Cuba, and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world. All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave their kids health care, totally transformed society. You know, not to say Fidel Castro and Cuba are perfect – they are certainly not – but just because Ronald Reagan dislikes these people does not mean to say the people in these nations feel the same.”
Sure, Bernie, lets just ignore all the people who loved Castro so much that they swam away on makeshift rafts and boats to escape him. Let’s just ignore the 50,000 people who fled Castro’s regime in the first year. They must have really enjoyed it there.
Sanders also praised the Sandinista socialist regime in Nicaragua. Not only was the Sandinista government an enemy of the United States, but they had an atrocious human rights record; targeting Jews, Catholics, indigenous peoples, journalists, and any who opposed the regime. Sanders called Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega “an impressive guy,” with “deep convictions.” He then accused the Reagan administration of poisoning public perception of the tyrannical regime.
From honeymooning in one of the most evil nations in the history of mankind to praising the murderous lunatics Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega, it is obvious Bernie Sanders likes mass murdering dictators, while he dislikes entrepreneurs who create jobs and invent new technology to improve lives. Bernie would rather sing praises of a man who killed nearly 8,000 political enemies than say one good thing about an economic system that has lifted millions out of poverty. If you still don’t believe Bernie is as close to garbage as humanly possible, there is likely no amount of evidence that will change your opinion on him. The man is either malicious and would have no problem replicating the events of Castro’s Cuba, or ignorant of them and would do so without realizing it. Either way, he is not fit to be president of the United States.
 
We have a criminal versus a fascist. What a country. We`re screwed either way.

We know clinton is a Criminal but how is Trump a fascist? The only thing is the over generalization of muslims. You can`t ban them all, but you can stop travel from countries considered to be hot beds for islamic extremism. As far as the illegals, I don`t think that falls under fascism in the slightest.
 
I know it would be hard to vote for Clinton, but having Trump as president is something our country may never recover from. Trump as Commander in Chief would be impossible to stomach. The military is a diverse organization made up of every nationality, race, and sex. Trump seemingly hates everyone that is not Trump. Egotistical, manic, untrustworthy, selfish, womanizer, words that even Trump would use to describe himself are not words that I want to use when I speak of someone that may be in charge of my children that may soon join the Armed Forces. Clintons` emails and other transgressions make her a very unlikable candidate, but Trump is not only unlikable, he is the worst that America has to offer the world and especially Americas` youth.
 
And I guess I fall into the anyone but Trump category. We need a third candidate option this year worse than I can ever remember. Shoot, I would vote for Mitt this year. It is going to drive the voter turnout to all time lows and that is good for the GOP.
 
And I guess I fall into the anyone but Trump category. We need a third candidate option this year worse than I can ever remember. Shoot, I would vote for Mitt this year. It is going to drive the voter turnout to all time lows and that is good for the GOP.

All a 3rd choice does is put one or the other in office, not the 3rd.
 
And I guess I fall into the anyone but Trump category. We need a third candidate option this year worse than I can ever remember. Shoot, I would vote for Mitt this year. It is going to drive the voter turnout to all time lows and that is good for the GOP.

Looks like there is .. Libertarian just announced.. former New Mexico Gov ... saw a brief interview and seems like a decent alternative... Gary Johnson Says Most Americans Libertarian But Don’t Know It - Bloomberg Politics

All a 3rd choice does is put one or the other in office, not the 3rd.

it certainly could make it interesting
 
Not at all

Repubs put a 3rd candidate against trump, Hillary gets in. Bernie gets a 3rd and splits votes with ms stretch pants, and trump gets in.


Pick the poison

We need another Johnson in the Whitehouse .. bawahahaha
 
He even had a business called Big Johnson ... Wiki =His success in that industry encouraged him to start his own business, Big J Enterprises
 
I know it would be hard to vote for Clinton, but having Trump as president is something our country may never recover from. Trump as Commander in Chief would be impossible to stomach. The military is a diverse organization made up of every nationality, race, and sex. Trump seemingly hates everyone that is not Trump. Egotistical, manic, untrustworthy, selfish, womanizer, words that even Trump would use to describe himself are not words that I want to use when I speak of someone that may be in charge of my children that may soon join the Armed Forces. Clintons` emails and other transgressions make her a very unlikable candidate, but Trump is not only unlikable, he is the worst that America has to offer the world and especially Americas` youth.

Some of this I agree with but womanizer and this whole hates everyone else thing? The guys had 3 wives in 40 years. Hired hundreds of women in top positions in his organization as well as every other nationality under the sun. If you think he`s a racist or can`t get things done because of his ego then your way off mark and do not understand what it takes to run a high level corp such as trump (Regardless if it is mostly branding). The simple fact is if the guy couldn`t get past his own ego there is no possible way he would have such a vast network of hotels in so many locations, its not possible no matter how you phrase it.
 
IMO it`s a pity that Johnson won`t get any real traction. In many ways I`ve always been more Libertarian than Republican, but their refusal (at least in the past) to disavow the Pedophile Constituency has always been a deal-breaker for me.


Eh, I question whether Trump is *really* as successful as he says he is. But even if he *is* a successful businessman, running his business and being POTUS are utterly different jobs calling for different skill sets and knowledge bases. Not saying the same person couldn`t be great at both, but I wouldn`t generalize the two as being directly comparable.

You can tell who the problem people are, either by brainwashing or a conscious decision to transform America into a 3rd world socialist terror state, by who is offended by what Trump says.

Hold it....So my being offended by (just to pick a few specifics)... a) Trump`s advocacy of torture and general approval of violence, b) his utter disregard for, and proposed plans to violate, the 1st Amendment (specifically on the topic of Religion), and c) his stated intention to start a Trade War....

My being offended by a Presidential Candidate for the above reasons makes *ME* a "Problem Person"?!? I`ve been "brainwashed" because I believe in following the US Constitution and in "doing unto others as I`d have them do unto me"? I`ve "made the conscious decision to turn the US into a 3rd World Socialist country" because I see downsides to starting a Trade War with some of the world`s largest economies?

A Problem Person...I`m not even being called a RiNO anymore, now I`m a "Problem Person". Well, The Donald has certainly expressed how he wants his followers to deal with Problem People, so thanks for the heads-up.
 
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