ok so more issues by yours truly, as stated before im coming off the chemical guy family moving into the menzurna for compounds. my da is a torq 22d, so i used menzurna pg1000 with a cg microfiber pad, also tried menzurna pg 1000 with a orange hexlogic pad, the results were good but there are still very fine scratches. im doing a 2x2 area. about 10 lbs on polisher these are the same results i get with the chemical guys vline. the shine looks more crisp but still very very small scratches. cant feel them with nail either. i see some of your results and i just feel like a scrub lol could it be my pad and da? :kick:
need advice again.
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ShaneB
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Pictures would be helpful.
you could need to go more aggressive, or slower, or make more passes. Hard to tell when we don't see what you see
you could need to go more aggressive, or slower, or make more passes. Hard to tell when we don't see what you see
Paul@Autopia
New member
Could be many different variables, but the main thing that stands out is that you are only doing one-step with Menzerna PG1000 - Heavy-Cut Compound. Most compounds leave behind some micro-marring and will need to be followed up by a Polish, I'd recommend going with the SF3500 after that compound, with a light polishing pad (I think they Hex-Logic polishing pads are white?).
im a dummy, i thought that was a one step lol :rofl:sorry:
i thought because its power gloss that it would be able to use just 1 step... just to clearify haha
Paul@Autopia
New member
You're no dummy and I'm glad you're asking questions to fix the issues you're having. On some paints it may be fine for a one-step, however on the majority of paints I'd recommend following up with a polish for optimal results. Any heavier compound like that will finish out much nicer by following it with a finishing polish.
I've had great results using Menzerna Medium Cut as a one-step, not as aggressive as PG1000 but won't have the issues you are noting with leaving micro-marring.
Accumulator
Well-known member
ascarbo27- I get a little nervous whenever somebody says that "the scratches aren't deep enough to feel with my fingernail". If they *WERE* that deep I'd be cautioning you to not even *think* about completely correcting them. For that matter, unless the current/residual marring really bothers you, I'd recommend that you give some thought to just living with it rather than taking off more clear. And IMO unless you can *keep* it marring-free there's little sense it getting it to that point anyhow.
Heh heh, spend enough time here at Autopia (or on the internet in general) and it's easy to start thinking that everybody else's vehicles are always marring-free and that yours needs to be also.
Heh heh, spend enough time here at Autopia (or on the internet in general) and it's easy to start thinking that everybody else's vehicles are always marring-free and that yours needs to be also.
Heh heh, spend enough time here at Autopia (or on the internet in general) and it's easy to start thinking that everybody else's vehicles are always marring-free and that yours needs to be also.[/QUOTE]
thats exactly how i feel about it, but i may just hit it with some polish, its a white car but i need the practice as i plan to start a business out of this one day
thats exactly how i feel about it, but i may just hit it with some polish, its a white car but i need the practice as i plan to start a business out of this one day
rlmccarty2000
Active member
You might try one of the many glaze products with some filling capabilities, but I would go with the Menz 3500 or 3800 to clean up micro marring. White doesn't show scratches like dark colored paints so if you can see them I would go with another step before an lsp.
Accumulator
Well-known member
White's *EASY* to keep nice- doesn't need to be marring-free to look great, just keep it clean and waxed.
Specifically, IMO you could do worse than just using an All-In-One on it and then topping that with FK1000P after the next wash. One bottle of a good AIO (maybe Zaino AIO) and a tin of FK1000P oughta keep it nice for many, *many* years.
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
Great info here ^^^^^
Another thing to consider is that you are only going a few passes and stopping, right ?
What does the spot on the panel look like when you stop ??
Does it still have a layer of compound on it ??
Menzerna compounds and polishes are able to be taken down to almost nothing, so that the entire range of product in them can break completely down and help finish the spot to the highest level it can do...
Unless you are finishing quickly because that panel comes out beautiful quickly, I see a need to keep working the spot, perhaps lifting up some of the pressure, and most importantly, with a higher speed so you get more pad rotation - which is the most important thing here to have in a random orbital DA like you have...
For example, I only use Rotary Power and I can take a nice foam pad and put a product on, work it with lots of pressure even at a lower speed, and get really great results because of the forced pad rotation that is constant and will not ever slow down, (along with mad skills that I have acquired over decades
Tell me again what make, model, color, and year of your vehicle ? So we get a general idea of how much paintwork you might have on it..
Dan F
Another thing to consider is that you are only going a few passes and stopping, right ?
What does the spot on the panel look like when you stop ??
Does it still have a layer of compound on it ??
Menzerna compounds and polishes are able to be taken down to almost nothing, so that the entire range of product in them can break completely down and help finish the spot to the highest level it can do...
Unless you are finishing quickly because that panel comes out beautiful quickly, I see a need to keep working the spot, perhaps lifting up some of the pressure, and most importantly, with a higher speed so you get more pad rotation - which is the most important thing here to have in a random orbital DA like you have...
For example, I only use Rotary Power and I can take a nice foam pad and put a product on, work it with lots of pressure even at a lower speed, and get really great results because of the forced pad rotation that is constant and will not ever slow down, (along with mad skills that I have acquired over decades
Tell me again what make, model, color, and year of your vehicle ? So we get a general idea of how much paintwork you might have on it..
Dan F
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When I get poor results its usually from too much product, a pad that is saturated with paint or product, not working long enough, speed is too high and is burning up the polish. I dont think I have ever said to myself " I am struggling and I dont think I am using enough polish" , its always the other way lol.
I think 10 lbs pressure is perhaps too much pressure, unless you have thin pads that can keep a good rotation.
I think 10 lbs pressure is perhaps too much pressure, unless you have thin pads that can keep a good rotation.