Zymol Concours v/s Swissvax Concours

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Cooter

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Hey Guys,

I've been thinking about purchasing one of the two. Which do you feel is the better of the two. As far as looks, depth, gloss, reflection and application. I'm just wanting some opinions.



Heath
 
'Heath,\r\nI have a high end detail shop in NY and just became a factory authorized Swissvax Detailing center. I have used Zymol for many years and found it difficult to work with. The higher end Zymol(Concour/Vintage) are outstanding waxes but are extremely expensive. Swissvax is much easier to use and offers a full line of products for the entire car. Both processes require a cleaner fluid application and then a wax application. I could go on forever so if you have specific question please feel free to PM me.'
 
Execdetails said:
'Heath,\r\nI have a high end detail shop in NY and just became a factory authorized Swissvax Detailing center. I have used Zymol for many years and found it difficult to work with. The higher end Zymol(Concour/Vintage) are outstanding waxes but are extremely expensive. Swissvax is much easier to use and offers a full line of products for the entire car. Both processes require a cleaner fluid application and then a wax application. I could go on forever so if you have specific question please feel free to PM me.'
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With all due respect, Zymol Concours and Swissvax Concorso are about the same price ($200 - $300), whereas Vintage is ~$2000!



Cooter, if you go to the Detailing World website (UK), you'll find a lot of info comparing Zymol Concours and SV Best of Show (which, for all intents and purposes, is the same as Concorso). That's what I did when it came to deciding between the two. You'll find people who prefer Concours and people who prefer BOS/Concorso. In the end I went with Concorso because I felt, from the descriptions and images, BOS/Concorso was going to give me the "look" I was after. (I can't give you my own take 'cause I haven't used it yet, but it sure smells good! :p )
 
I can't say anything about Zymol because I don't use any of their stuff.



But Concorso is amazing. Looks awesome on every color, its about $50 more expensive than Concours. Concorso also cleans AMAZINGLY well!



Plus I have heard Concorso is easier to work with.



My vote goes to Concorso.
 
I am a veteren of EGZymol Concours, and personally I feel that it can render excellent results (Edit: Outstanding range of reflective depth, very good color rendering, good gloss. Zymols typically do not feature a lot of gloss in the lower layering stages, but three to five layerings of an EG Zymol will produce a well rounded sampling of gloss and reflectivity). I have also heard very good things about concourso (SV). Your best bet would be to try to get a sampling of both waxes and see which result you like the best. If you are not able to sample both at the same time (both waxes are expensive), then try a jar of either the zymol or the sv first, and then when one jar is used up, try the other competing wax. Take a lot of notes and compare with good digital photos.



Good luck.........these two represent some of the finest examples of pure carnauba waxes.
 
SV Concorso gets my vote. It is much easier to work with. Although, Zymol smells better but I hate the grainy feel and oily spots it would leave if you did not wipe it off good enough.
 
z06meister said:
SV Concorso gets my vote. It is much easier to work with. Although, Zymol smells better but I hate the grainy feel and oily spots it would leave if you did not wipe it off good enough.
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I recently switched after using Zymol for 10 years to using Swissvax. SV is much easier to work with and is significantly more durable.
 
I dont think its major "pro" is that it is user friendly.



I had a more difficult time than usual removing it. I had to stop using the Pakshak Ultra-Fine and use an Ultra-Smooth as these white "specks" left behind on the paint were pulling the fibers from the towel. The car looked like it had a fine white beard growing. I also needed to spray the surface with cold water to remove all of these white "specks" on the surface which I believe, from reading on the forums, to be carnauba wax. some oils were left behind, clearly a side effect of too much product.



Maybe it was an application, condition, or removal process that I bothched.



1. Wash with Poorboys Super Slick & Suds via foam gun and a microfiber wash mitt

2. Dry with leaf blower and Pakshak Ultra-Soft waffle weave microfiber

3. Apply thin layer of wax with water moistened yellow foam pad

4. Allow to cure for 12-15 minutes in 65 degree garage

5. Remove with Pakshak Ultra-Smooth microfiber

6. Buff random areas with cold water and Pakshak Ultra-Plush microfiber



Could the use of bare hands or a warm application pad help melt the product, therefore allowing a more smooth application and removal?
 
jsatek said:
I dont think its major "pro" is that it is user friendly.



I had a more difficult time than usual removing it. I had to stop using the Pakshak Ultra-Fine and use an Ultra-Smooth as these white "specks" left behind on the paint were pulling the fibers from the towel. The car looked like it had a fine white beard growing. I also needed to spray the surface with cold water to remove all of these white "specks" on the surface which I believe, from reading on the forums, to be carnauba wax. some oils were left behind, clearly a side effect of too much product.



Maybe it was an application, condition, or removal process that I bothched.



1. Wash with Poorboys Super Slick & Suds via foam gun and a microfiber wash mitt

2. Dry with leaf blower and Pakshak Ultra-Soft waffle weave microfiber

3. Apply thin layer of wax with water moistened yellow foam pad

4. Allow to cure for 12-15 minutes in 65 degree garage

5. Remove with Pakshak Ultra-Smooth microfiber

6. Buff random areas with cold water and Pakshak Ultra-Plush microfiber



Could the use of bare hands or a warm application pad help melt the product, therefore allowing a more smooth application and removal?
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I'm not familiar with Mystery, but compared to all the Zymols I've used Concourso is a breeze. It went right on and buffed right off. Neither Zymol or Swissvax will ever be compared to Souveran or P21S in terms of ease of use. However, there is a significant difference in that category between the two brands.
 
Mikeyc- Thanks for your take on the SW vs. Zymol. I appreciate all the experiences/opinions, even those that differ. While lbls1 and I bicker and tease each other about these pricey waxes, I *am* seriously interested in them as I sure want to get the right one (for me) if/when the time comes.
 
Accumulator said:
Mikeyc- Thanks for your take on the SW vs. Zymol. I appreciate all the experiences/opinions, even those that differ. While lbls1 and I bicker and tease each other about these pricey waxes, I *am* seriously interested in them as I sure want to get the right one (for me) if/when the time comes.
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Heh Heh....when.....?
 
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