zpc isnt doing it for me

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EdgeOfSanity

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I just got to try out my new pc with zpc and its not working like i hoped. I'm using it with a white sonus pad on a pc speed 6. Its removing the most of the swirls but its not getting the deeper ones at all. Do i move to a sonus yellow pad or do i need to go with a different polish? I can take pics if it would help.
 
It must be a Sonus Sfx pad. try the yellow pad, if that is what you have. If you saw results with the white pad you will see more results using a more aggressive pad. Just go slow checking your progress often. The yellow pad is a cutting pad. Good LUCK!!
 
cwcad said:
It must be a Sonus Sfx pad. try the yellow pad, if that is what you have. If you saw results with the white pad you will see more results using a more aggressive pad. Just go slow checking your progress often. The yellow pad is a cutting pad. Good LUCK!!
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Thanks for the help. The white pad was only getting out the minor swirls, i switched over to the yellow pad but it didnt do much better at first. Then i realized i wasnt working the polish long enough. Works great now.
 
EdgeOfSanity said:
One other thing, is zpc supposed to dust really bad? I've got green dust over every square inch of my car.
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Yes ZPC does dust a bit more than I would like. you will be doing a Z6 or QD wipedown before your LSP right ? that will remove the dust and get you ready for your LSP. as long as there is not hazing from your cutting pad " get er done "
 
EdgeOfSanity said:
One other thing, is zpc supposed to dust really bad? I've got green dust over every square inch of my car.
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It has been my experience that if I am gettin a lot of dust that I have either a loaded pad that needs to be rinsed and cleaned or I have used to much product.



An 1/8th in. line around the pad to start. That amount should be able to cover not quite one half of hood. After the first pass with ZPC use only a small amount. For me I try to apply a dollop the size of a nickle after the first line that charges the pad.



Others may do it different but this has proved effective for me. Causing minimal dusting.
 
flatstick said:
Yes ZPC does dust a bit more than I would like. you will be doing a Z6 or QD wipedown before your LSP right ? that will remove the dust and get you ready for your LSP. as long as there is not hazing from your cutting pad " get er done "
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thats probably a good idea, i was thinking about just hosing it then drying again since my black car is now lime green.
 
cwcad said:
It has been my experience that if I am gettin a lot of dust that I have either a loaded pad that needs to be rinsed and cleaned or I have used to much product.



An 1/8th in. line around the pad to start. That amount should be able to cover not quite one half of hood. After the first pass with ZPC use only a small amount. For me I try to apply a dollop the size of a nickle after the first line that charges the pad.



Others may do it different but this has proved effective for me. Causing minimal dusting.
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i'll have to try that, i've been using a small bead across the pad for relatively small sections.
 
EdgeOfSanity said:
i'll have to try that, i've been using a small bead across the pad for relatively small sections.
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The advice that CWCAD gave you should help with the dusting . the removal of any dusting that you have would work with your QD. hope it works out well for you keep us posted.
 
I've never used it but from what I've read you should use way less then you think you should-and the less you use the better the results. Maybe someone else can give more specific advice.
 
Today things are going better, i should be finished by this evening. Much less dust this time around. Unfortunatly zpc is just not aggressive enough to get rid of the deeper scratches/swirls i have. Even after 3-4 passes im unable to get the deep ones. I think i'll be switching over to the menzerna twins after this. Gives me an excuse to order some souveran too.
 
Always nice to be able to order more products. Menzerna is a good line to use. Terrific results with relatively small amount of product. Look into PO1066FF and PO85RD if you are interested in even a finer finish. or Menzerna IP and FPll if you are unable to find the former.



Souveran is a favorite Carnuaba of mine.



Just remember all the work that you have in your detail with the Zaino line. Once you add a product like Souveran to the mix one must start over with the Zaino ZPC to get the proper bonding for the Z-line sealants.
 
Souveran is an awesome carnauba but is short lived in the durability dept, in my experience. I have found that if it's been a few weeks since application, a strong car wash solution will suffice to remove Souveran and more Zaino can be added without the need to remove it all. Z7 works great for that and is a good all around car soap but any soap will do. If still concerned, I'm sure a 50/50 alcohol/water wipe down would remove it for sure (might remove some Zaino also though). Hope this helps.
 
cwcad said:
Always nice to be able to order more products. Menzerna is a good line to use. Terrific results with relatively small amount of product. Look into PO1066FF and PO85RD if you are interested in even a finer finish. or Menzerna IP and FPll if you are unable to find the former.



Souveran is a favorite Carnuaba of mine.



Just remember all the work that you have in your detail with the Zaino line. Once you add a product like Souveran to the mix one must start over with the Zaino ZPC to get the proper bonding for the Z-line sealants.
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yeah, i know once Z is topped with souveran i have to start over if i want to use more zaino. What i'm thinking about doing is using zaino through the hot summer months and then using souveran through the winter.
 
EdgeOfSanity said:
yeah, i know once Z is topped with souveran i have to start over if i want to use more zaino. What i'm thinking about doing is using zaino through the hot summer months and then using souveran through the winter.
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Funny this was/is the exact same plan that I have had for this winter. believe it or not.!! have been testing carnuabas on the hood of my truck for the last three weeks. Having had Zaino previously on the truck the souveran looked compareable for about two weeks. the last ten days I have been feeling a grit build up on the surface of the Souveran. The wax is not what it used to be. To say that I am disappointed would be an understatement.



I look forward to your results in the coming winter. I truly hope that you get what you are looking for in a shine. Even though my test should continue for complete results, I have to admit that my resolve is waining. I want the Zaino shine that comes in the disguise of protection and durability.
 
Don't bother with Soveran in the winter if you live in a cold climate state. Go with one of the Collinite waxes. They are much more durable.
 
jmsc said:
Don't bother with Soveran in the winter if you live in a cold climate state. Go with one of the Collinite waxes. They are much more durable.
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winter in texas is very mild. The weather report says 70s and sunny for the next 10 days.
 
cwcad said:
Funny this was/is the exact same plan that I have had for this winter. believe it or not.!! have been testing carnuabas on the hood of my truck for the last three weeks. Having had Zaino previously on the truck the souveran looked compareable for about two weeks. the last ten days I have been feeling a grit build up on the surface of the Souveran. The wax is not what it used to be. To say that I am disappointed would be an understatement.



I look forward to your results in the coming winter. I truly hope that you get what you are looking for in a shine. Even though my test should continue for complete results, I have to admit that my resolve is waining. I want the Zaino shine that comes in the disguise of protection and durability.
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I'm really not concerned about souveran lasting as long as zaino. When the weather is nice i usually find time for about 6 layers of zaino per month. It wouldnt bother me at all to wax 2-3 times a month.
 
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