Zebra Myvi juct detail by KC (severly threaten by ACID RAIN)

[riotejas]

I'm contemplating getting an orbital polisher, but not sure if I even need one. Is it recommended or even worth the money to apply polishes and sealants like Blackfire or Klasse?



I know ppl swear by the porter cable polisher, but the cheapest I've seen them are $110 on ebay. Is this a typical price for a good quality polisher? I've seen wen brand ones for much cheaper.

 

[BradE]

The Porter Cable is the best for random orbital polishers. You can get new ones at www.coastaltool.com for $115 shipped.

I like to apply sealants by hand rather than by machine. I feel you can get a much thinner coat by hand than by machine, that way you don't waste product and removal will be easier. You could use the polisher for removal if you so choose.

The real time saver with the PC is using abrasives. It really cuts down on application time to remove swirls, and gives great results. :up

 

[riotejas]

What makes the porter-cable polishers so much better than other more inexpensive ones?

 

[BradE]

The motor is much stronger, and it has lots of speed settings. Most of the el cheapo ones have a motor that is 1 amp or less, and have no speed controls. They motors themselves also don't last very long. The motor on the PC is 3.7 amps, it's assembled much better and is just a better quality tool. The PC's motor is about as strong as you can get in a random orbital, to get more you would have to go to a direct drive rotary. I don't recommend rotarys to many people, you must have a lot of expierence or you can literally destroy your entire finish with a rotary.

 

[riotejas]

Forgive the newbie question, but how does the spinning action created by the PC not create swirls?

 

[BradE]

No, random orbital polishers will not create swirls. They do not spin in a circle, they move in a figure eight motion. Also, random orbitals don't generate much heat which can cause buffer burns. Direct drive rotarys spin in circles and can cause bad swirls and buffer burns that can go right through the paint if you don't know how to use them.

 

[imported_Eric]

what I did was buy a $29 from Harbor Freight just to get the feel of it. I basically only use it as a final polisher (wax) with a wool bonnet. I wipe the wax off by hand and then use the buffer. It (IMHO) does give a better shine. The buffer is only .65 amp and thus probably can't hurt anything as it is light and doesn't have the power. Again-this is not a professional talking. Just saying what works for me.



I have really learned a lot from this forum.

 

[riotejas]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

The Porter Cable is the best for random orbital polishers. You can get new ones at www.coastaltool.com for $115 shipped.</blockquote>
Wow, coastaltool.com is so much cheaper than the PC 7424 being sold at CMA ($159.95 + 17.95 shipping vs. $115 shipped). I know the CMA version comes with the $8.95 backing plate though.

In reading the coastal tool site, it mentions things about 5" vs 6" plates and counterweights. What specifically do I need? I want to be able to apply some SMR to my car and buff/polish out my Klasse in the future. I'm thinking this is a better use of mymoney instead of paying $100 for a pro-detailer to do a one time swirl removing treatment.

 

[Glozz]

I find that it does not deliver the results I'm looking for. I would suggest getting a rotary buffer if your looking to remove scratches or large amounts of swirls.



The PC 7424 is great for applying wax, and polishes. Applying synthetic products is better left to elbow grease.

 

[BradE]

For a person with no expierence using a power buffer, I would not recommend a rotary buffer. In the wrong hands you can do more harm than good. For someone starting out, the PC is a good choice.

 

[Glozz]

I agree on the issue of experiance. However, it's something that can be learned in short order. Most important is being careful and deliberate when using one.

 

[Guest]

I bought my PC from here:
http://www.right-tool.com/6varspeedran.html
I paid $134.95 and it was shipped and delivered just as promised. I hadn't used a buffer before and have used it on both of my own cars and several other peoples cars. I've used 3M rubbing compound and swirl remover with no problems at all. It appears to be pretty difficult to actually do any damage with the PC, as I've pushed it pretty hard at times. I even wet sanded my entire Jeep Cherokee, used the PC with both rubbing compound and swirl remover without ever breaking through the clear coat. Now, I was really carefull on tops of fenders, etc to prevent problems. I bought the PC accessory kit for $59.00 from http://www.properautocare.com/porcabackit.html because the foam pad that comes with the PC is permanently attached to the backing plate. With the accessory kit, you get a backing plate with velcro so you only replace the pads when they wear out, plus changing to different types of pads is a snap.

 

[kc's]

myvi zebra???

North Americatti (zee-bra) yoo jedhame wamamu, United Kingdomitti (zeb-rah) jedhame wamama!!!

where do i derive the title from
Zebra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Zebras are African equids best known for their distinctive white and black stripes. Their stripes come in different patterns unique to each individual

A zebra is a mammal of the Equidae family. The name "zebra" is used for a few different species of the genus Equus. Zebras live in Africa but found in MALAYSIA

why
Acid rain is rain or any other form of precipitation that is unusually acidic, ..... Places like much of Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand

Acid rain is rain or any other form of precipitation that is unusually acidic, i.e. elevated levels of hydrogen ions (low pH). It can have harmful effects on plants, aquatic animals, and infrastructure through the process of wet deposition. Acid rain is caused by emissions of compounds of ammonium, carbon, nitrogen, and sulfur which react with the water molecules in the atmosphere to produce acids. Governments have made efforts since the 1970s to reduce the production of sulfur dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere with positive results

Human health

Scientists have suggested direct links to human health.[31] Fine particles, a large fraction of which are formed from the same gases as acid rain (sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide), have been shown to cause premature deaths and illnesses such as cancer and other diseases.[32] For more information on the health effects of aerosols see particulate health effects.

It is very Normal to see such a paint condition if the car is not wash for weeks...the amount of acid contaminates the paint

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after ONR wash
clay begin & contminants picked up

my intervention plan

Quick wipe down with ONR rinseless wash & 2 micro fibers to dry

Optimun no rinse was as Lube with mild clay

Paint polishing
Rotary with Lake country white colour polishing foam for with Meguiars M 80 polish ....speed 600 to spread, 1400 with gradual movement & speed , finishing off at 900 with moderate movement
just prior before i can wax the rain came,,,:-(

total time spent : 4 hours ....exclude waxing

ta da

now u see now u dont pics

nice turn around

pearl white restored

nice little white ride

the story of how the zebra became the white stallion

glossy paint

smooth paint surface

pretty like the condition

happy to see her

BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
then came rain

nice beading

just managed to complete the ride

why at such a time like these

i know how u feel...i felt it too

so it time to called it aday

some sovenir i got from detailing

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[kc's]

5 months later

revisited & came to know , some new inflicted scratches too

the usual stains caused by acid rain

more stains

look like turning into zebra again

2 caps of ONR 8 litres of water dilution wash with 3 micro fibers

TADA some sample stuff flown from states

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pics before wash
birds dropping

50/50 onr wash before & after

clay
onr 2 ounces with 500 ml water as lube

this is wthe dirt i picked up

my intervention plan
ONR WASH WITH 3 Microfibers towel
OPTI POWER CLEAN - to clean the paint

Rinse off with H20
ONR as Lube & clay
ONR WIPE DOWN
OPTI SEAL - to sealed prior wax
OPti wax - spray on wipe off & walk away

OPTI coated 3/4 of the hood

time required : 3 hours for 2 rides ( i did it on another SUV)

I did some coating to it

a 50/50 area to test out the durabilty of this coating
on a DD ride in malaysia subjecting to the acid rain

its a secret that my sis didnt even know

for the rest of the car i opti sealed it & opti wax it

the very next day

i couldnt belive it

look at the flickering paint stakes

ma ma mia ..look like just came out from factory , yummy baked

guess what
mirror reflecting pics...nope water reflecting pics

thanks for viewing & stay tune for the coating test results soon

 

[bmw5541]

Very nice work KC. The car looks great.:clap:

 

[kc's]

Very nice work KC. The car looks great.:clap:

thanks mate